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    http://thestar.com.my/lifestyle/stor...=lifebookshelf

    Media went as far as to say that “true manga” was made only in Japan.

    "To say that you can’t draw it because you don’t have the DNA is just silly.”


    it's true that most people are hostile to foreign mangaka.
    i myself find the idea a bit repulsive and odd although i KNOW that technically speaking, a "foreign manga" could equal a japanse one .

    maybe it's beacause i got used with the manga=japanese concept...which could also be true because manga IS a japanese word ... so does this mean that comic books that resemble mangas in every way cannot be named "manga" just because the ppl who drew them were not japs?

    please tell me what you think about this.

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    http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/manga
    man·ga /ˈmɑŋgə, ˈmæŋ‑/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[mahng-guh, mang‑] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation –noun
    a Japanese graphic novel, typically intended for adults, characterized by highly stylized art.
    [Origin: 1985–90; < Japn: lit., cartoon, comic strip]

    Sorry, kiddo, but "manga," refers to graphic novel's from Japan. Sure, other people can make "graphic novels," but you can't make "manga" unless you are in Japan. It doesn't matter if the person making it is Japanese, only that it is made, published, whatever you want to call it, in Japan.

    So, in my opinion, "manga" is not manga if it is made outside of Japan.

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    i'm really not reffering here to the literal meaning of "manga" but more to the meaning of this term in the public's view

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    Quote Originally Posted by sakura_hana View Post
    i'm really not reffering here to the literal meaning of "manga" but more to the meaning of this term in the public's view
    Well, if you look at it like that, then all "hackers" are evil people trying to hurt you and your computers.

    When, in reality, there are those that do that, some that use it for kicks and giggles, some for profit, and some for ideology. And then there are the white hats that try to help with security or help with Open Source developement, or grey hats that toe the line between the two.

    All I am saying, is, in effect, the "public," the masses, are morons, and you can't go by what they mean, but what actually is.

    Yes, non-Japanese can make excellent graphic novels, there is nothing stopping them but the culture to nurture it, and the people to sponsor it. However, no matter how much you want it to be, it is not manga.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jakko View Post
    http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/manga
    Sorry, kiddo, but "manga," refers to graphic novel's from Japan. Sure, other people can make "graphic novels," but you can't make "manga" unless you are in Japan. It doesn't matter if the person making it is Japanese, only that it is made, published, whatever you want to call it, in Japan.

    So, in my opinion, "manga" is not manga if it is made outside of Japan.
    I think that you take an too literalist definition of the concept. Sure, manga is originally Japanese, but arguing that you can only make manga in Japan is a little like arguing that you can't eat Thai food outside Thailand.

    The basic problem is essentially whether you tie the definition of manga to its country of origin, or cosider it an artistic style in itself. I'm leaning towards the latter, though I am aware that few good mangaka are non-japanese (or rather that I don't know of any good mangaka outside Japan).

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    I like the foreign-manga called "Batman" Or Spiderman

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kolox View Post
    I like the foreign-manga called "Batman" Or Spiderman
    Personally, I prefer the manwha, "The Incredible Hulk." =p

    Or maybe that classic manga, "Dilbert?"

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    Don't forget the yaoi called "Garfield"

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    And the loli shoten furry yaoi manga "Calvin & Hobbes".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saizou View Post
    I think that you take an too literalist definition of the concept. Sure, manga is originally Japanese, but arguing that you can only make manga in Japan is a little like arguing that you can't eat Thai food outside Thailand.

    The basic problem is essentially whether you tie the definition of manga to its country of origin, or cosider it an artistic style in itself. I'm leaning towards the latter, though I am aware that few good mangaka are non-japanese (or rather that I don't know of any good mangaka outside Japan).
    Manga is a word that MEANS comics in the Japanese language; it isn't really an artistic style at all. Its use should be equivalent to Japanese phrases that mean "hello", "thank you", or any other thing that has an equivalent in another language such as English. When I go on a Japanese online store, the comic section isn't called "manga", it's called "comics". Therefore, I cannot see any reason for why manga should describe anything other than a Japanese comic.

    If it's published in Japanese originally, then by all means, call it a manga no matter who drew it. If it was intended for a different audience, then it's just a comic. I don't think it should have anything to do with who drew it, though, because that's not what defines where a comic is made, or its target audience. =P That's like saying women can't draw comics intended for guys. The "manga" label is defined like the target audience - for the audience, it's the magazine where it's published (in Asia); for comics, it's the country where it's originally (and intended to be) published.
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