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    R3dKnight is offline Senior Member Community Builder
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    Is possible that in human evolution
    we will be physically stronger, wiser, faster and more intelligent

    not weaker.

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    I dunno. If we move into space, muscle atrophy does occur and if you spend a long time there with weak gravity over generations....


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    Quote Originally Posted by StealDragon View Post
    See (Juggernaut Bitch! jokes aside) the problem I have with humanity evolving differently is that most species evolved to adapt to their environment. With humanity having easy access to the entire globe where would the separation occur? Maybe between space and Earth ....
    Doesn't really apply to humans in the same sense it does to other creatures, we can shape the environment to fit us to a much greater degree than other creatures.

    And yeah, if we haven't expanded beyond Earth in 100,000 years (that was the amount of time that you proposed right?), we'll almost certainly be dead.


    Quote Originally Posted by R3dKnight View Post
    Is possible that in human evolution
    we will be physically stronger, wiser, faster and more intelligent

    not weaker.
    Not naturally, we should be able to artificially select/add those traits though, whether that'll be easier or more troublesome than other methods of compensating for such things is the question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StealDragon View Post
    With humanity having easy access to the entire globe where would the separation occur? Maybe between space and Earth ....
    Specialisation, SD. People live in different kind of conditions. I think that it would only be natural for humans to adapt even more to their environment, in order to become more effective.

    Quote Originally Posted by adonai View Post
    Doesn't really apply to humans in the same sense it does to other creatures, we can shape the environment to fit us to a much greater degree than other creatures.
    Well, humans still cannot control the climate, can they?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dante Obscuri View Post
    Well, humans still cannot control the climate, can they?
    Cloud seeding, ect.

    Our minds have been what evolution has selected for so far, not such traits such as adaptability to certain weather conditions, or even more generally usefully traits like physical strength. Our adaptability stems from our ability to react to the environment intelligently.
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    Quote Originally Posted by adonai View Post
    Not naturally, we should be able to artificially select/add those traits though, whether that'll be easier or more troublesome than other methods of compensating for such things is the question.
    that's why we need cloning and stamcell research, bub.

    if we just our way go, zapping tv/ playing WoW/ Junkfood/ idiotic religion and politics, etc etc
    are we all going to end up like that movie "idiocracy"?

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    I'm following the idea of "The Time Machine", we will we weaker, at least for sure in a physical sense, I'm not sure if we will be stupid though.
    I would guess that in a few thousand years we will be good enough in messing around with human genetics that evolution just doesn't matter anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StealDragon View Post
    I dunno. If we move into space, muscle atrophy does occur and if you spend a long time there with weak gravity over generations....
    On the other hand we could have a stronger breed of humans if we were to populate a planet with a higher gravity than earth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by adonai View Post
    Our minds have been what evolution has selected for so far, not such traits such as adaptability to certain weather conditions, or even more generally usefully traits like physical strength. Our adaptability stems from our ability to react to the environment intelligently.
    So, physical changes are not part of evolution? I was quite sure that evolution involved all those important changes that occurred due specialisation; for example, humans are not physically strong as they once used to be, because instead of their own strength, they started to use tools. To build those tools they had to use their brains, and as a result, now humans control more of their brains, than their ancestors.

    Taking into account that not everyone lives under the same conditions (some live in cold weathers, others in hot weathers; some live in the city, other lives in rural areas; some work with their brains (intelligence) more than with their physical strength, others work with their physical strength more than with their brains), wouldn't it be possible that those conditions become important factors in their evolution.

    Perhaps evolution seemed as something standard at the beginning, but wouldn't that be because life for humans was standard in the past? With that I mean that there were not many roles, basically men hunted for food and defended the group, whilst women remained home taking care of the kids, and things like that. The diversification of roles didn't become really large until recently [10000 years ago, onwards (post-Sumerian times)]. Now, we have many different roles, and people living in different sets of conditions.

    Evolution is another matter where I am quite ignorant, but I think this one is a possible approach to this matter.

    Quote Originally Posted by Schiljo View Post
    On the other hand we could have a stronger breed of humans if we were to populate a planet with a higher gravity than earth.
    is dat sum dragonballz reference?


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    Ironically enough, the future of our species will probably be determined by intelligent design. With the rapid advances in biology, we should have the ability to make controlled and deliberate changes to the human DNA in the future. Therefore, we can cut out the entire process of evolution altogether.

 

 
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