Depression.... A cop out?
OK... Bear with me, I'm not being a cunt, just need a discussion on this and while maybe a forum where people argue about if "naruto is turning into DBZ" may not be the best place for this, I just feel guys who can discuss the complexities of a sharinghan for hours on end may have some tolerance in their blood.
Depression is a curse... I do not feel I have the extreme forms of this I have heard about, but recently have been pretty much forced into taking tablets that will "help" the condition of "feelling sad and lonely" by a doctor and my father.
I am not a child, just to get the emo shit out of the way. I may have had a hard time lately with a cuntish job that made my cynisism and lonlieness grow. This does not, in my opinion, meqan I have a "chemical impalance in the brain nwhich causes serotonine levels to be inconsistent with the norm"..... (My extensive use of quotation marks you can take to mean I have researched this and take it with a pinch of salt).
My Point of discussion is, circumstances matter. Taking tablets to make something feel better, to me, is the very same as drinking to forget; In other words, not getting to the root of the problem. If, at this moment in time, a girlfriend is not on the horizon.... your last job was the worst time of your life... and members of your family(whom you love and respect, by the by), watch every move you make "because you're on depression tablets, that you never nwanted in the first place"... then you're obviously gonna feel somthings "not right in my life and I'm sad... Boo Hoo!".
Depression tablets are societys way of forgetting how fucked up society's got. Where I live, there are more suicides than deaths on the road.... Discuss! (Wow... am I in Heavy talking mode or what?)
The only cure for depression is getting off your ass and doing something. Society is seriously fucked up, which is why I think so many people get depressed... and relationships are a big factor in it. What makes it worse tho' is just staying in the house all day. Go out and play pickup basketball, call friends (or make friends...). The way to defeat depression is just to realize that tomorrow is a new day. Also, nature... go for a walk, enjoy a sunset...
Suicide is the stupidist idea ever. There are so many options for people, they just get closed up in a box that gets more and more cramped. Then they kill themselves hurting others around them and not giving themselves a chance...
Ok, several things.
First, it is against the rules of this forum to use this section to complain about your life. That said, it seems more that you want to discuss how society dictates the use of drugs for everything under the sun. That is fine to talk about. Let's just make the distinction clear that you are discussing society, not yourself.
Second, judging by the misspellings you just made, I am guessing you are a bit tipsy, and there is a reason you made this thread. Go easy on grandmaw's cough syrup when you get into philosophical debates, please. =p
And, yes, I agree that society seems to over-medicate. It seems that people use chemical imbalances as a convenient excuse for what I would consider a failure on the part of the individual's in that person's life in most cases. Drugs are the snake oil of the 21st century, in more ways than one. I am not some wacko idiot that hates medicine, far from it, but I am leery of using drugs, especially as a way to control others.
I am, I can honestly say the only time I ever wanted to kill my self was when I was on zoloft. I never really felt bad, and I would have rather dealt with my psychological problems myself, rather than being forced to take drugs. Same with ADD I think it is something that does not require drugs it's just an excuse for parents to be bad parents most of the time. I am not saying that ADD is fake, but I am saying about 80% of those kids just need not be spoiled rotten.
Originally Posted by Jakko
Ok... two things... spelling mistakes explantion: 1...Accidentally made two threads cause of an internet connection issue, one without looking over my shitty typing(which will hopefully be deleted), 2... Trust me, as much as I may have cause to bitch about my own life, I'm just using it as a reference for discussion... suicide not being in the equation
.... and I also believe this notion of depression excessively linked with suicide just degrades the problem and stops people taking it serioulsy.
on the side... appreciate the quick reply
I didn't read the post, I only needed to read one word and that was deppression.
Life is shit, for all of us, no one is gonna hand you riches, sex and entertainment on a silver tray, FUCKING DEAL WITH IT! We all do, and some of us even make a name for ourselves.
Drugs will only fuck you up even more and screw your chances at a half way decent life in the future. Get off your chair, take your thumb out of your arse, get your shit together and DO SOMETHING, RATHER THAN BITCH AND WHINE LIKE A FAGGOT ON AN INTERNET FORUM TO PEOPLE WITH THEIR OWN PROBLEMS WHO DON'T CARE ABOUT YOURS.
Originally Posted by 98abaile
Faggot??!!??.... I tell ya what lover boy, either contribute to the conversation like a civil human being or go and be a FUCKING SHEEP like the rest of the intellectually stunted cunts on the planet! Might notice I'm getting a litte bit hostile? Thats cause I hoped for a slightly intelligent discussion from people WHO HAD READ THE POSTS!!!
If you had read, like any Kindergarden kid is able, you would have guessed I detest the use of these "drugs" to bandaid a problem that nobody cares about, as you seem to convey.... and as far as the "silver platter" goes, money matters about as much to me as you do. In fact, this society is too money oriented and therin is one of the contributing factors. Stop talking before you lose one of your few remaining brain cells!
I actually agree with you on the drug thing. I wouldn't take them and I wouldn't go near contemplating suicide. Just do your best and try to be happy and do things that make you happy. Ignore your retarded parents but use them to help you get out of your sadness. Seriously, these things sometimes take a long time to get over so you should just be patient for now.
98 stop being a jackass,the guy is starting a discussion about depression in general,not about how depressing his life is(he was just using it as an example).
Aww, whats the matter, is little Bahmunt butt hurt by the fact that I think its your own fault that you're in this situation? You caught me out on one part though, I should have said that I didn't need to read the post (which I did anyway, as evidenced by the fact that I'm talking about drugs), so yeah, my bad.
Also, from your original post, I can only assume that you are not doing anything to get yourself out of your "depression" and are instead continuing to take the pills, which makes you part of the problem, so tell me, who's the sheep?
You talk about the action of taking tablets not getting to the root of the problem, my question is: what have YOU done to get to the root of YOUR problem (because it is your problem and you are the only one who can sort it out)? My point is its useless to talk about society trying to hide the problem by giving people drugs, if those people take them willingly. More to the point, relying on the state/health sevice/psychiatrist/someone else to take the burden of your depression when its not really something they can solve for you, is only compounding the problem.
So in sumary, the problem is not society trying to sweep something under the rug by loading people up with meds, the problem is people who are dependent on someone else and don't want to help themselves.
Last edited by 98abaile; 08-07-2007 at 09:53 PM.
Reason: Spelling and adding extra (I'm tired).