Thread: Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows (contains spoilers)

Well he wanted to do the Imperius Curse so that they could not be caught.

He wanted to do the Cruciatus Curse to uphold the honor of someone who he holds with great respect.

But by the time he gets to Voldemort, he has already had a greater understanding.

I know I'm kind of grasping straws, but by the time he faces Voldemort for their final showdown, he's already had his talk with Dumbledore. While he wants to get rid of Voldemort, but he changed from the time he used the previous two.

Originally Posted by Digital_Eon

And that doesn't explain why he could suddenly want to cause pain in book 7 when that piece of soul was there in book 5 and he couldn't do anything. That's why he said that he understood what Bellatrix meant. You have to WANT it. And he did.

But there is a difference between wanting to cause pain, and enjoying causing pain. He never enjoyed it. Even though he could do it longer in DH than in OoP doesn't mean that he suddenly enjoyed it. It probably meant that he just needed it more. And it probably helped that he'd tried using it before.

Originally Posted by thatjutsu

Though Neville was kick ass, especially when refused to join Voldemort and cut the snake's head off and pulled out the sword. How did he get it though?

Godric Gryffindor was the true owner of the sword, depite what Griphook might have said about theft. (Personally I don't believe that Gryffindor stole it.) Dumbledore said in the second book that only a true Gryffindor could pull the sword out of the hat when he was in need. It shouldn't matter where the sword was. If the sword and the hat were enchanted to always be connected then it should work fine. It is magic afterall.

Ok after reading King's Cross again, I have a theory.

Harry goes to "purgatory". But wizard purgatory is the choice of whether or not to go back to earth and become a ghost, or to go on.

At the place, you get the person who you most want to talk to to help you in your decision.

The place is what the wizard think it is, because Dumbledore was surprised when it was brought up that they were at King's Cross.

Now usually, if the people decide not to go on and take their trip, whatever they think it is, they come back to earth as ghosts. If they do, they decide to go to where Sirius, James, Remus, Lily, and Albus went.

This is where I get a little sketchy with me. Since Harry had two souls residing in his body, his body didn't actually die when he got hit by the curse, because he still had a soul residing in it. Thus when he goes back, he can go back to his body, because it hasn't died. While normally when people die and come back, they have no body to return to, thus ghosts.

Probably not really original, but it came to me as I was reading the chapter.

Actually, my theory is that Harry doesn't die because he is the Master of Death at that point, having collected all of the Hallows.
He already had the Invisibility Cloak, he had just obtained the Resurrection Stone, and he was unknowingly the rightful owner of the Elder Wand. So, as Master of Death, he gets to choose whether he dies or not, and he chose not to.

woot colin creevy dies, guy was anooying as fuck >.>

Originally Posted by MojoMunkeez

Actually, my theory is that Harry doesn't die because he is the Master of Death at that point, having collected all of the Hallows.
He already had the Invisibility Cloak, he had just obtained the Resurrection Stone, and he was unknowingly the rightful owner of the Elder Wand. So, as Master of Death, he gets to choose whether he dies or not, and he chose not to.

NO WAI!

You mean we can actually look at things the way they are described in the book now?!

ZOMG!

can someone please explain to me how harry became the master of the elder wand. i don't get the whole dumbledore, draco then harry bit. oh and i thought the beginning and the end was really bad about the book and the middle was alright.

Harry was able to take Draco's wand from him when he was captured and that gives him right over the wand. Ollivander told Harry that if a person defeats the wands owner that it will give allegiance to them. Harry explained it to Voldemort at the end too. I found the story to have covered just about everything, tying up all the loose ends, and finishing full circle.

Snape didn't actually defeat Dumblebore when he killed him. They had been planning it since Dumbledore came back from the Gaunt house. So when Draco disarms Dumbledore in the tower at the end of HBP, he defeats Dumbledore and becomes the owner of the wand. Draco was the last person to "defeat" Dumbledore.

Then you have Harry take Draco's wand from him when he gets caught and taken to the Malfoy mansion. Since he overpowered Draco to get his wand, the Elder wand becomes Harry's.

I would of gave the book a A-. It was good but not what I wanted in the last part. The three kids thing was lame. I wanted Harry to become a Auror(sp?) and hunt down all of the rest of the Death Eaters as the Master of Death. Also, I think DE has a crush on Harry.