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    ^See, I don't even agree with that. Call me cold-hearted, but people who put themselves into the service pretty much become the dogs of war. Once they are signed up, they can't turn back if they are called to fight, even if they disagree with the particular war they are going to fight in.

    While many soldiers manage to do their jobs with conduct and bravery, there are also many who shame our country's image by torturing natives, etc etc. Even if this particular video is not legitimate(I think its a fake too), there is no doubt that there has been similar injustices done by real soldiers.

    Oh, and I don't buy the CIA bit either. This video reeks of fakeness. If the guy was legitimate, why would he post a video about it after all the media scandals in the USA? He might be retarded, but that takes it to a whole different level.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dante Obscuri View Post
    I think that SD, with supporting, meant doing so blindly. Americans (at least most, or some of them) support the war on terror, but the video that SD posted depicts one of the things that is actually happening. It's not as if SD meant that Americans support abuse on the Iraqis.
    It's still piss-poor title. Obviously it's a play on the 'support our troops' stickers and campaigns. Hence, I call it a lump-job.

    And blindly? Of course we support blindly. What happens when we stop... we totally fucked the CIA up to high hell. And like shautieh said, this is nothing new. It's been happening since the invention of the club.

    Anyway, you leave this shit to the brass and the MPs. You don't point your finger from state-side, and you don't generalize all soldiers as sick fucks. If your pissed, send the link to your congressman.

    Honestly, I think it's fake... so send at your own risk.
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    Volvogga. I won't even dignify that with a response. You of all people know the very LAST thing I would ever do is GENERALIZE.


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    He did not generalise, mate, or at least, I think he didn't. The title may be misleading, but I do not think that the idea was to say that every single soldier was a sick bastard. I wouldn't know if what the guy in the video said is true or not, but that wouldn't be the only report on abuse from soldiers (not only American soldiers) towards civilians, there have been others in the past. All the same, this is nothing new.


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    Ohhh... I thought it was an article thingy so I said I was 18, but then I saw a video starting and my parents were in the room so... :S
    A similar-ish thing happened to someone in my year- pissed off her face at some party and lost her virginity to 4 lads. Well 3 really, one was holding the camera.
    And the video went on the internet.
    She didn't even seem bothered =_____='

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    I have to agree with Jakko (gasp). I do not think the guy in the video is in the SF. Most likely some guy who failed to get in because of the psyc test. A wanna be.

    Most of our men and woman in the armed services are good people trying to the right thing in a country that doesn't want us there in the first place. This "Person" should be hung. All he does is make us as a country look bad. Maybe we would try him for treason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Henchy432 View Post
    Maybe we would try him for treason.
    That's a pretty difficult charge to convict anyone of in the US:
    Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court.

    The Congress shall have Power to declare the Punishment of Treason, but no Attainder of Treason shall work Corruption of Blood, or Forfeiture except during the Life of the Person attainted.
    Anyone know what the second paragraph is saying by the way? Best as I can figure, it means that all punishments (and they can be anything) are to be applied to the traitor during that person's life, and there are to be no punishments carrying on to the next generation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Henchy432 View Post
    I have to agree with Jakko (gasp). I do not think the guy in the video is in the SF. Most likely some guy who failed to get in because of the psyc test. A wanna be.

    Most of our men and woman in the armed services are good people trying to the right thing in a country that doesn't want us there in the first place. This "Person" should be hung. All he does is make us as a country look bad. Maybe we would try him for treason.
    You do know people did get tortured by these good people who are trying to do the right thing right?

    Nevertheless I think the video is fake and the guys are idiots.

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    Why do people keep saying this is fake after I posted this???
    Quote Originally Posted by StealDragon View Post
    Ok. I don't think this is fake. You never see the full title on the shirt all you see at best is "US SPE", if it did say special forces and special forces dont wear special forces shirts or work in prisons then it makes sense. If hes not special forces then he worked in the prison. And considering the magnitude of this operation, the CIA, as the number 1 (or 2, i dunno if the NSA is bigger) foreign operations bureau should be in deep on this gathering intelligence and such. I seriously doubt theres no CIA stuff going on in Iraq.
    Just because somethings incredulous doesn't mean its false.


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