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    You are a liar.
    Everyone is a racist.
    I'm a racist, Jakko's a racist, you're a racist.
    It's hardwired into our minds. Don't try to deny it.
    If you're saying that you don't belittle or ridicule white folks, that means you're trying hard not to be a racist, which conversely makes you a racist because you're thinking about not being racist to them.
    The fact that you're arguing that white people are racist also makes you yourself a racist. Think of the other side of the coin, were the minorities the white people oppressed unbiased saints? No. They hated the white people just as much and the white people hated them.



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    Sigh... this brings back lovely memories of Sociology class.


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    Shit I'm rascist, its not like its an all-consuming philosophy or some shit. I'm SEXIST too... but that just means I judge a little harsher meeting someone than otherwise.

    Case in point, most of my coworkers are black AND female, and I quote 'Treat them like family' (THEIR words). I've worked with them a while, I know them, they're good people. When I first started working there, I was quiet and a bit judgemental but you just keep watching, see if you've got a reason or not.

    On the other hand the fact that I'm rascist stems from the fact that I didn't START rascist, I started not rascist and met enough 'bad' blacks to justify my developing a pre-existing judgement.

    Stereotypes are there for a reason, cause they're based on the truth.

    Rascism is there for a reason - and shit - whites were making other WHITES slaves before they decided blacks would make a good substitute.

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    Goddamn it I hate it when Martyr is right... Arguing that he doesn't make sense ... its like trying to fight the sunrise.


    I'd like to die with the songs I love stuck in my head. I hope to make the most of these hollow bones we become.
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    Nah, I'm not racist, and I don't believe that racism is hard wired into our minds.No, I'm trying not to be little white folks because it would go against my morality. I'm sorry but can you rephrase this section:"f you're saying that you don't belittle or ridicule white folks, that means you're trying hard not to be a racist, which conversely makes you a racist because you're thinking about not being racist to them.
    The fact that you're arguing that white people are racist also makes you yourself a racist." it just doesn't make sense to me.

    "No. They hated the white people just as much and the white people hated them."

    I would also have to disagree with this. The blacks and others races may have hated white people, but not because they were white. The minorities disliked them because of the treatment they received from their white oppressors.

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    I meant that you're consciously thinking about the whole racism issue, so you make a point to "not" be racist. That, in itself is passive racism.

    Minorities come to associate the white race as the oppressing race after all the history behind it, so they start to develop an inherent fear of white people which grows into resentment which can escalate to violence. Slave revolts? Apartheid? Malcolm X? Hello?



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    Quote Originally Posted by MojoMunkeez View Post
    I meant that you're consciously thinking about the whole racism issue, so you make a point to "not" be racist. That, in itself is passive racism.
    Actually sociology dictates that when people become aware they're being racist they almost instantly make a conscious effort not to be racist and therefore are actually less racist. So technically making this thread makes him less racist in the general sense.


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    a kid in depression creating a thread to show his hate to the world.

    emo/10

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    The fact that you're arguing that white people are racist also makes you yourself a racist." it just doesn't make sense to me.
    Let us define racism:
    rac·ism /ˈreɪsɪzəm/ Pronunciation[rey-siz-uhm] –noun
    1. a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others.
    2. a policy, system of government, etc., based upon or fostering such a doctrine; discrimination.
    3. hatred or intolerance of another race or other races.
    [Origin: 1865–70; < F racisme. See race2, -ism]

    So, basically, a blanket statement about an entire race, without actually knowing every member of that race, or at least the many facets of it, is racism. Like what you said.

    "No. They hated the white people just as much and the white people hated them."
    I would also have to disagree with this. The blacks and others races may have hated white people, but not because they were white. The minorities disliked them because of the treatment they received from their white oppressors.
    Now this is just bull.
    I am from the American South, you know, the place where all the rednecks and racists live. I know a lot of racists(I am one as well to some extent, as you[obviously] also are). White and black. Black racists, well, let's just say there are a lot of them, they are bad, and they don't give a rat's ass about being "oppressed" in the past. They just plain hate people that aren't black. Look into the black muslim theology.

    In North Africa, the blacks of African descent and the Africans of Middle Eastern descent are racist against each other. The Middle eastern africans just plain think african africans are lesser beings(take Sudan for example, or Morocco), from what I have read/heard. Heck, the Chinese hate most everybody, always have, Mojo can tell you that. Most racist minorities don't care one whit about "oppression," they are just racist for the same reason whites are, because they see themselves as superior. To try to pretend this isn't the case is just fantasy.

    I have always heard that Catholic schools teach kids horribly liberal crap, and now I see this is truly the case...

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    In all actuality, I think about the issue of race, not racism, and how some of us are affected by it. i think about how it affects us, not that I hate white people or anything. Truthfully speaking, my current desired is of Italian descent, and she is also white. I believe my attraction springs from my adoration of Italian culture and her being Italian, although she cannot speak it.

    @jakko:

    I am not racist, I believe such intangible concepts as race and racism shouldn't exist, not to say that I don't love the diversity of the people I hang out with, which I do. Also, whether or not I attend a catholic school should be negligible when it pertains to matters such as race. To tell the truth, I'm believe in God, but also in evolution, and I certainly do not believe in religion. Besides, this discussion of race and racism isn't from a catholic school, it stems from a Sociology class discussion. University level mind you.
    Last edited by angeltakerx; 06-11-2007 at 08:53 PM.

 

 
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