Page 3 of 9 FirstFirst 12345 ... LastLast
Results 21 to 30 of 86
  1. #21
    adonai is offline Senior Member Community Builder
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Posts
    5,630

    Default

    @Jakko, tldr.

    Really hard to get past the first paragraph anyways, but Stealthmoose already pretty much explained what I meant, with elementary organic compounds, sealed and regulated vesicles could be created that selectively intake certain compounds and buds when it reaches a certain size. I don't really see how the article detracts from my argument at all, what Miller did wasn't anything like what I was describing.

    Besides, you can tell from the first paragraph that the article was biased and misleading.

    We saw that the evolutionist claims suggesting that man evolved from primates, reptiles from fish and the birds from reptiles were invalid.
    Species with similar genomes also have similar mitochondrial DNA, with the differences being directly proportional to how far apart the two species in question diverged. How can that be explained by anything other than common descent?

  2. #22
    Jakko's Avatar
    Jakko is offline Senior Member Community Builder
    Join Date
    Sep 2005
    Location
    North Carolina, US
    Posts
    4,503

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by adonai View Post
    @Jakko, tldr.

    Really hard to get past the first paragraph anyways, but Stealthmoose already pretty much explained what I meant, with elementary organic compounds, sealed and regulated vesicles could be created that selectively intake certain compounds and buds when it reaches a certain size. I don't really see how the article detracts from my argument at all, what Miller did wasn't anything like what I was describing.

    Besides, you can tell from the first paragraph that the article was biased and misleading.



    Species with similar genomes also have similar mitochondrial DNA, with the differences being directly proportional to how far apart the two species in question diverged. How can that be explained by anything other than common descent?
    No idea what tldr means....

    ...anywho, it goes on to show, if you read it, that the experiments that show amino acids being synthesized are wrong. They make use of conditions that cannot be found in nature(or at least the one evolutionists claim was around billions of years ago), are made with a process that couldn't survive in said conditions, and created amino acids not suitable for life(as their are two different kinds of amino acids, those living organisms can use, and those they cannot. Guess which kind the experiment made.).

  3. #23
    StealthMoose is offline Senior Member Respected Member
    Join Date
    Sep 2005
    Location
    Land of the Engs
    Posts
    540

    Default

    Well firstly your statement isn't entirely correct. I'm next to positive that at least a few naturally occuring examples of utilisation of D-amino acids have been reported, such as in bacteria cell walls I think. However it isn't particularly illogical for the majority of organisms to use L-type only. When the first molecules were forming there will have been both L and D types, however through chance the L-type was uptaken by the proto-cells or whatever there were, and as such following organisms will have utilised the same type. I haven't explained this very well because I can't really remember it particularly clearly from the lectures I had last year, but if anything the fact that all nearly all organisms use L-type amino acids further proves that evolution as all organisms have inherited this trait from that proto-cell.

    Having said that whatever that overlong and biased article says, it's only arguing about how life initiated. Even if you wanted to ignore the evidence and say 'God' stuck it's finger in the primordial soup and that's what sparked life then fine. This does not however in any way shape or form disprove evolution. Life today has still diverged from a common source. This has been demonstrated time and time again, through mitochondrial DNA examinations as Adonai mentioned, or looking at the DNA complements of highly conserved proteins and how they've changed between taxonomic groups.

  4. #24
    Terasiel is offline Senior Member Community Builder
    Join Date
    Sep 2006
    Location
    South Carolina, US
    Posts
    3,310

    Default

    I love good commentary.

    morleigh13 (44 minutes ago) marked as spam
    This is assuming God has nothing better to do then put tabs on bananas.

  5. #25
    98abaile's Avatar
    98abaile is offline Senior Member Community Builder
    Join Date
    Sep 2005
    Location
    An Englishman in a shithole somewhere in Wales.
    Posts
    7,892

    Default

    Just for good measure, lets throw in Lamarkism.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lamarckism

  6. #26
    StealDragon's Avatar
    StealDragon is offline Super Moderator Community Builder
    Join Date
    Apr 2005
    Location
    NCC-1701
    Posts
    13,424

    Default

    Ill never be a fan of any non scientific theory on the creation of man when the leading opposition swears "the big man in the sky made me!".. blaergh.


    I'd like to die with the songs I love stuck in my head. I hope to make the most of these hollow bones we become.
    I raise a toast to the the souls that sang all along. I've been gathering friends to just to make some sounds,
    before the ship goes down, I've been making amends by making the rounds before the whole world ends


    [Chit Chat Specific Forum Rules] // Last Update - Friday March 13, 2009

  7. #27
    Terasiel is offline Senior Member Community Builder
    Join Date
    Sep 2006
    Location
    South Carolina, US
    Posts
    3,310

    Default

    But he did! Just ask him!

    ...Oh god is it hard not to laugh when I say that.

    EDIT: Somehow, despite being a proponent of it, I didn't know about Lamarckism.

  8. #28
    StealDragon's Avatar
    StealDragon is offline Super Moderator Community Builder
    Join Date
    Apr 2005
    Location
    NCC-1701
    Posts
    13,424

    Default

    off topic but does anyone find it so hypocritically funny that when someone says they talk to God, then its ok... but if you say God talks to you, then everyone thinks you're crazy...

    XD


    I'd like to die with the songs I love stuck in my head. I hope to make the most of these hollow bones we become.
    I raise a toast to the the souls that sang all along. I've been gathering friends to just to make some sounds,
    before the ship goes down, I've been making amends by making the rounds before the whole world ends


    [Chit Chat Specific Forum Rules] // Last Update - Friday March 13, 2009

  9. #29
    Terasiel is offline Senior Member Community Builder
    Join Date
    Sep 2006
    Location
    South Carolina, US
    Posts
    3,310

    Default

    With the exception of Pat Robertson, George W Bush, and various Super Fundamentalist Christians.

    Well, maybe most do think they're crazy.

  10. #30
    R3dKnight is offline Senior Member Community Builder
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Location
    third world country
    Posts
    4,641

    Default

    Creation theory is a just Lame joke of a fairy tale that only
    the Republican, Super Fundamentalist Christians
    care to brag to their childrens about how Jahweh love them




    So what are SFC is going to do next, in the American education?
    Replacing Newton's theory of Gravity for the more substainable Intelligent Falling

    LOL

 

 
Page 3 of 9 FirstFirst 12345 ... LastLast

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
vBulletin Skin by: ForumThemes.com
Powered by vBulletin® Version 4.2.0
Copyright © 2014 vBulletin Solutions, Inc. All rights reserved.
SEO by vBSEO 3.6.0 PL2

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79