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    isn't there a way for the victims to make an appeal or something ?

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    this is a load of bullshit. I understand where you're coming fromSD, but this isnt the time, nor place, nor do i agree with you in any way. this man shouldve been shot. if i meet him in the future, i'd consider it. maybe locking himin my basement for a month?


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    Quote Originally Posted by StealDragon View Post
    Well if they have no proof other than circumstantial evidence and a teary story then why should I be surprised that he was acquitted. The defense attorney didn't fabricate the holes in their story. If this was such a huge tragedy then maybe they should have built a better case against him.
    Yeah, I mean, that's how justice works. Just because he had previously been found guilty of raping a 12 year old, that doesn't automatically mean that he dragged and raped these two women.

    This is how justice is supposed to work. No bias.

    Though he'd have to be pretty good at the dragging from bed thing to not have the victims call out for help.

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    Its odd how AKofC (of all people!) is the only one who sees exactly where im coming from.

    Yep Aik, it must have been one hell of a big technicality. =\
    Quote Originally Posted by sperm worm View Post
    this is a load of bullshit. I understand where you're coming fromSD, but this isnt the time, nor place, nor do i agree with you in any way. this man shouldve been shot. if i meet him in the future, i'd consider it. maybe locking himin my basement for a month?
    Theres a better time and place somewhere that I'm missing? And whats there to agree with? The hard facts and the outcome of the trial are undenaiable. What you think the jury didn't want to convict him? If they, 12 sane people, took only 8 hours to figure out this guy irrefutably couldn't have done this what makes you so sure that he did? Im sorry but a past history doesn't prove that he did the crime in the present. Maybe you need to stop going "OMG rapist gets away!" and start thinking about why. Hell ask yourself why only 16 years after his first conviction he's not still in prison.


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    Yeah sounds like the prosecution must have had a pretty crappy case. Which is surprising, cos it looks like (if it happened) they should have been able to gather enough evidence for a conviction.

    SD's right, though. If the prosecution couldn't prove it, then there's no way they could convict him. There really is no proof that his version of events - that the girls used sex to get free drugs then turned on him - isn't true. There's no end of stories about stupid kids doing stupid shit around these days.

    Of course, if it is true, then it's fucking horrible. But if it's not, then those girls are absolute bitches. I hate girls who call "rape" if there was none, just for some selfish agenda. No matter what the case, and no matter how much evidence against it, so long as a guy is known as someone who has had a rape charge laid against him, his life's over. Because everyone treats him exactly as you are all treating him now. It's such a ridiculously powerful weapon, and it's so easy for a girl to use. I actually wrote a paper on this in Uni.

    But anyway, at the end of the day...

    lol American legal system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sherman View Post
    Yeah sounds like the prosecution must have had a pretty crappy case. Which is surprising, cos it looks like (if it happened) they should have been able to gather enough evidence for a conviction.

    SD's right, though. If the prosecution couldn't prove it, then there's no way they could convict him. There really is no proof that his version of events - that the girls used sex to get free drugs then turned on him - isn't true. There's no end of stories about stupid kids doing stupid shit around these days.

    Of course, if it is true, then it's fucking horrible. But if it's not, then those girls are absolute bitches. I hate girls who call "rape" if there was none, just for some selfish agenda. No matter what the case, and no matter how much evidence against it, so long as a guy is known as someone who has had a rape charge laid against him, his life's over. Because everyone treats him exactly as you are all treating him now. It's such a ridiculously powerful weapon, and it's so easy for a girl to use. I actually wrote a paper on this in Uni.

    But anyway, at the end of the day...

    lol American legal system.
    Which is why I say, "to bad they no longer have lynch mobs."
    ...Though, since we are talking about Darlington, in rural South Carolina, I think I might actually get my wish. Bet you five bucks he won't live to the end of the year. Maybe the Darlington guards will make a re-appearance for great justice(move zig)...

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    So like... if he was found innocent... wouldn't that mean that the girls were found guilty of lying about being raped? Were they punished in any way?

    But shit. I can't believe they couldn't find any other evidence to support their case. I mean if it was rape, couldn't they check for damage to the hymen (probably the wrong term) because the girls wouldn't have been aroused? or if it was consensual sex, then he what reason would he have to wear gloves? And I know the basis is innocent until proven guilty , not the other way round but shouldn't he still have to bring in the drugs in question?

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    The justice system is a labyrinthial (made a word) horror of red tape and free passes. That's the norm, nowadays.

    And no, perjury isn't given to someone on the grounds that they don't have enough evidence to prove their case.


    The only thing I can say about this is...well, long live modern democracy.

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    err... even if he seems to not be innocent, how can your criticize modern democracy like that ?
    Do you really think it was better when people were arbitrarily killed without much proof ???

    having to prove that someone is guilty may let some bad persons out, but it is still way more preferable than for the persons to be considered guilty a priori..

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    Quote Originally Posted by shautieh View Post
    err... even if he seems to not be innocent, how can your criticize modern democracy like that ?
    Do you really think it was better when people were arbitrarily killed without much proof ???

    having to prove that someone is guilty may let some bad persons out, but it is still way more preferable than for the persons to be considered guilty a priori..
    I don't think you want me to answer that question, but I will say that it depends on the person and the crime, sometimes I think it was better, sometimes not. I think I should point out, I really like the judge in "And Then There Were None."

 

 
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