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    erachima is offline Senior Member Always Around
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    Everyone should be.

    If a gunman enters a room and starts killing people, you have 4 basic movement options

    A. Stand still.
    B. Run away.
    C. Hide behind stuff.
    D. Charge.

    A is basically just asking to be shot, same with B unless you have nearby cover since it's pretty easy to shoot someone in the back. C is probably the safest option in the short term, but if the guy is trying to kill as many people as possible then you're just delaying your own execution. So that leaves D.

    Charging the gunman bears a high risk of injury, yes, but actually a very low risk of death because you'll be moving and he won't have time to aim. So you can probably bet on a bullet in the shoulder or lungs, but that won't be lethal and with small-caliber bullets it won't be enough force to stop you either. If the gunman panics and his aim goes off, you may not even be hit.

    Then, after you collide with him, your goal is to knock him off his feet and hopefully knock the gun away from him or pin his limbs down. If you were shot, this may be difficult, but even if you are unable to take the weapon from him the few seconds in which you are distracting him from the others should be enough time for another of the people in the room to come help you.

    And if nobody else comes and helps you, instead all running off and leaving you alone with the gunman? Well, at least you'll be the one who goes down in history as "the heroic guy who died holding back the murderer and saved the rest of us" rather than "the guy who hid behind a couch and pissed himself and then died anyway when his whimpering alerted the murderer to his location".

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    =\ meh

    fight or flight.

    unless ur trained, or you keep your cool to the extreme, your going to run before fight.


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    I think the word "hero" is thrown around way too often. The cops that dragged the dead bodies out of the school are quote unquote heroes. So this guy is a superhero.

    but of course im being cynical. They should name a building after him... or something.... whatever.


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    Quote Originally Posted by erachima View Post
    Everyone should be.

    If a gunman enters a room and starts killing people, you have 4 basic movement options

    A. Stand still.
    B. Run away.
    C. Hide behind stuff.
    D. Charge.

    A is basically just asking to be shot, same with B unless you have nearby cover since it's pretty easy to shoot someone in the back. C is probably the safest option in the short term, but if the guy is trying to kill as many people as possible then you're just delaying your own execution. So that leaves D.

    Charging the gunman bears a high risk of injury, yes, but actually a very low risk of death because you'll be moving and he won't have time to aim. So you can probably bet on a bullet in the shoulder or lungs, but that won't be lethal and with small-caliber bullets it won't be enough force to stop you either. If the gunman panics and his aim goes off, you may not even be hit.

    Then, after you collide with him, your goal is to knock him off his feet and hopefully knock the gun away from him or pin his limbs down. If you were shot, this may be difficult, but even if you are unable to take the weapon from him the few seconds in which you are distracting him from the others should be enough time for another of the people in the room to come help you.

    And if nobody else comes and helps you, instead all running off and leaving you alone with the gunman? Well, at least you'll be the one who goes down in history as "the heroic guy who died holding back the murderer and saved the rest of us" rather than "the guy who hid behind a couch and pissed himself and then died anyway when his whimpering alerted the murderer to his location".
    easier said than done...when things actually happens like that you will lost all rational thought and your brain and muscle will switch to panic mode you will do whatever your impulse tells you to, these are not trained kids what are the chances they're going to do that?

    unless you're trained in a dangerous situation then you will most likely to run or avoid the source of danger not approaching it. besides how do you know that none of them tried to do what you're suggesting?

    did you ever learn martial arts? ever involved in real fights? did you use your martial art skill or just randomly punch the guy? at real fights like that (spontanious fight) most people will lose rational thought and just throw random punches, i know coz i've been involved in a few fights myself, totally lost it (my thought that is) on a few but manage to compose myself on some of them and thats just because i'm winning that i can compose myself.

    so what if a guy hid behind the desk, cried and wet himself? everybody will react differently, that doesnt make that guy a coward at all.

    its easy to say this cowardly thing on the comfort of home, why dont you prove yourself and go to iraq?

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    dam, and he was apparently one of the top engineers of the world.

    and i'd agree with deuce, its just fight or flight, majority of the time you wont know what you'd do unless you were trained. me myself, i wouldnt know what i'd do, but man that guy really was a hero.
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    There are actually only a few realistic actions that you can take, that will lead to your surivival in such a situation.

    1. Run for the nearest window, as long as your on the third story or lower.
    2. Throw the nearest object of about 15-20 pounds at the gunman, then charge or run.
    3. Charge with an object inbetween you and the gunman, covering your head and body, as you charge low. [A desk, table, backpack, potted plant, you should be able to pick up most things, since you will almost certainly have a big shot of adrenaline coursing through you, which should give you a 1.5 to 2.5 increase in strength]
    4. Pull out the concealed carry gun you have and shoot him in the face.

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    ^i meant im not sure which i would have chosen out of the options that i knew were available to me that you just pointed out.
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    That really takes some guts. It's the first time I've ever gotten chills reading about something on 4chan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ishman View Post
    There are actually only a few realistic actions that you can take, that will lead to your surivival in such a situation.

    1. Run for the nearest window, as long as your on the third story or lower.
    2. Throw the nearest object of about 15-20 pounds at the gunman, then charge or run.
    3. Charge with an object inbetween you and the gunman, covering your head and body, as you charge low. [A desk, table, backpack, potted plant, you should be able to pick up most things, since you will almost certainly have a big shot of adrenaline coursing through you, which should give you a 1.5 to 2.5 increase in strength]
    4. Pull out the concealed carry gun you have and shoot him in the face.
    ahahahahaha, that just made me laugh out loud.

    it true what you said, but mehh...when put into this type of situation, ppl tend to just react than think. If anything, they could of hid behind the door with a chair raised, let him pass and whale him in the head a few hundred times, but mehhh....scary stuff. Still, props to the professor.


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    Crazydiamond: I'm pretty sure I could. Not because I'm some superman or anything, but just because I do not panic easily. Not from car wrecks (been in 3, different drivers each time), not from deadlines, not from having a person stabbed in front of me. Plus since I've put a good bit of thought into what I should do in a situation like this, the mental rehearsal will make it so that I'll hopefully be able to actually think of it when things came down to the wire.

    And yes, carrying a gun at all times would work just as well. A pity nobody had one, eh?

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