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    Quote Originally Posted by asianmaster View Post
    well....i would find it hard to make money on movies for example if everyone started to buy bootlegs of the movies on the street.same goes for music....the music industry must lose a lot of money because of p2p programs like limewire,morpheos,etc.then theres torents, and whole bunch of other stuff. i dont see how record labels,artists,paramount,pixar,etc are not loseing money......................or am i missing somthin and im retarded?
    Yes, you are.

    You see, non-profit piracy is almost exactly the same as a library, and books that go in the library Well, they sell better than those that don't.
    That's because the most powerful form of advertising is done through such sharing word of mouth.

    That means, because people can try out new things for free, if they like em, they'll buy em. Whilst if they couldn't get it for free, they would've never purchased it in the first place.

    Or, another example would be us poor students who couldn't possibly buy this stuff in the first place, but who will often become at least wealthy enough to buy a large percentage of what we listened to/played/read/whatever.

    [It's the reasons for video game demos, if you are still to stupid to get it.]

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ishman View Post
    Yes, you are.

    You see, non-profit piracy is almost exactly the same as a library, and books that go in the library Well, they sell better than those that don't.
    That's because the most powerful form of advertising is done through such sharing word of mouth.

    That means, because people can try out new things for free, if they like em, they'll buy em. Whilst if they couldn't get it for free, they would've never purchased it in the first place.

    Or, another example would be us poor students who couldn't possibly buy this stuff in the first place, but who will often become at least wealthy enough to buy a large percentage of what we listened to/played/read/whatever.

    [It's the reasons for video game demos, if you are still to stupid to get it.]
    Except in this library, you don't have to give the books back, there is no charge if you don't since you are unlikely to get caught and you're not even supposed to borrow the books in the first place.

    Also, I've got well over 200GB of anime (and thats just the complete series, the total is closer to 300GB), I probably only legally own about 10GB of that and I have no intention of buying the rest. More importantly, since I'm now able to download anime for free brfore its even released over here (and very little is released over here), I completely stopped buying anime. The same goes for both manga and music.

    Also, game demos are only parts of the game, so there is incentive to buy the full copy so you can play the full game. Here we are talking about downloading complete media, so for most unsrupulous people, there is no need to buy it.

    And if the media companies are making more money, why are they making such a big fuss about file sharing networks and sites like youtube?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ishman View Post
    Yes, you are.

    You see, non-profit piracy is almost exactly the same as a library, and books that go in the library – Well, they sell better than those that don't.
    That's because the most powerful form of advertising is done through such sharing – word of mouth.

    That means, because people can try out new things for free, if they like em, they'll buy em. Whilst if they couldn't get it for free, they would've never purchased it in the first place.

    Or, another example would be us poor students who couldn't possibly buy this stuff in the first place, but who will often become at least wealthy enough to buy a large percentage of what we listened to/played/read/whatever.

    [It's the reasons for video game demos, if you are still to stupid to get it.]
    what are you talking about with non-profit piracy?this is the real world, and if a person can buy a dvd bootleg dvd for 5 bucks instead of 15 or 20 he will. then using word of mouth they will tell all his her friends and they will also but the bootleg dvd. none of the people who baught the bootleg dvd are ever going too buy the original, why would they? or a person will rent a movie from blockbuster then burn it and return the rented dvd. this guy/girl will then let his/her friend eighther borrow the movie of burn him/her a copy.
    if a guy wants music for an ipod chances are he wont be going to itunes or any other site, he will most likely be going to limewire.yes itunes is used on a regular basis by some, but the people who use it are adults with credit cards. so then where do all the 12 to 17 year old kids get their music for their ipods? limewire has been DLed by millions all over the world,they download it because they where told by their friends that they can get free music and movies from it. there is no way that the music industry, hollywood,etc are not losing money. it is called piracy for a reason,because the companies responsible for making the product dont get any money. there is a difference between companies giving away free dvds and cds, and downloading music and movies from the internet for free. if a person can get somthin for free why would they buy it? the only thing this doesnt apply to is games, most people dont have their systems converted anyway.
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    doesn't look so bad to me. If the music industry is losing money on CDs then it's their responsibility to find other means of selling music. Which they have. The market is not controlled by industries alone, but by the buyers and sellers. they may be losing money now, but they'll definately be making money in the future.

 

 
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