Thread: Israel X Palestine

who cares... its like a billion miles away... their missiles cant hit me!

i'd say palestine ONLY cause i've been told that israeley's have no historical proof to back wat they say.

I'd say that argument is bullshit. If you agree with that then we should be letting Native Americans run our government. Or we can that argument further back.

Be more specific. They're both right and wrong on many points. Which specific point are you talking about?

Originally Posted by Crossail

Some faggots are blowing up inocents. I care.

theres no such thing as innocence... only naivety

Right now I'd say Palestine for three reasons:

1) Israel took over their land in 1967.
2) Very few developed nations want to recognize their legitimately elected government.
3) Palestine hasn't tried to invade other countries.

Neither are right in their actions - killing people is bad, duh - but it's easier to feel sorry for the one who isn't coming out on top (and who doesn't have nukes).

Oh yeah... 4) If you make friends, the bully could nuke them.

Note the fact that I said neither are RIGHT.

None of them can be "right" because they didn't forgive for what they've done and they still haven't apologized formally.
Both and multiple sides of the Middle East will keep on slashing each other with no end if there's no apology.
Both Israel and Palestine have done legal and illegal stuffs from th UN, human rights, international treaties, and for many other reasons that you can pile up until today.
There's tons of examples you can check out in the every day news such as:
Palestine is not a country.
The Palestinian stole the deserted land without permission.
Israel have "defended" against Palestine by invading Egypt within few days.
Palestine has economical frauds and debts for Israel fort he land ownership.
Israel abuses its military force to judge their invasion and killing of civilian Palestinians as terrorists and barbarian.
Palestine has been accused to forced recruit of civilian of all age and of any kind of condition to practice suicide bombing.
Palestine has violated the UN.
etc.

Both sides have not apologized for anything and they both keep fighting and amplifying their mistakes. No one will longer solve or mess up with that problem until both of them have to apologize for everything.

Originally Posted by Diabolos_dolcefarniente

i'd say palestine ONLY cause i've been told that israeley's have no historical proof to back wat they say.

You favor Palestine because of what you've been told? Furthermore, what the hell are you talking about? Go away.

Anyways, I'll cast my vote in favor of Israel. I'm quite biased, of course, being Jewish and all...I see great value in a single country in which Jews can live, even if they picked the single most idiotic place in the world to put it (Hey guys! Let's put the Jews right in the middle of a bunch of people who hate them!). Sure, I know why Israel is where it is, but it's still stupid. Why not...Australia?

Originally Posted by Digital_Eon

Right now I'd say Palestine for three reasons:

1) Israel took over their land in 1967.
2) Very few developed nations want to recognize their legitimately elected government.
3) Palestine hasn't tried to invade other countries.

Neither are right in their actions - killing people is bad, duh - but it's easier to feel sorry for the one who isn't coming out on top (and who doesn't have nukes).

1) ummm... England, the US, and many other nations (I forget if the UN was involved) GAVE them Israel. It was not TAKEN by who you call Israel.

2) This is just wrong. Israel has majority support in the UN.

3) Why would they? I don't particularly think that Israel is invading other countries in a landgrab. Why would they give concessions to Palestinians on a regular basis?

I also disagree that it is clear that Israel is coming out on top. They both commit atrocities, which causes the other to do something in response, continuing into forever.

O_O

You two are Jewish?!

OMGOSH OMGOSH OMGOSH!!!

Anyway...

Originally Posted by Crossail

Well, who's right and why.

It doesn't matter who is right.

Politics is never about who is right. It is always about who has more power.

Israel wins! Israel has the sympathy and support of the Great Powers (like US). Seriously.. US has no written alliance with Israel, but still we're putting our heads into the mess and picking sides.

Originally Posted by coolerimmortal

Why not...Australia?

Well.. the obvious reasons would be for history. Like Moses, King David, and all those cool people.

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Wasn't Australia like Georgia? (Originally created to hold criminials, murders, rapists, ect.) That's not the reputation I'd want.