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    Good grief. You don't know where I come from, you don't know anything about our media, and you automatically assume that I get my information from some leftist talk show, when even the most conservative newspapers over here say the exact same thing.

    Maybe you should stop assuming that you must be right, logic and facts be damned.
    Ummmm, not to sound argumentitive, but weren't you just doing the same thing, assuming that everything he believes, all that he knows, are distortions of the truth, "Republican propoganda?" Wasn't his comment just a rebuttal to your original statement, dismissing out of hand what he says, without even knowing "where [he] come[s] from, [and] you don't know anything about our media(really, how can you "know" anything about the media of a country, without living there, experiencing the social norms, education systems, and beliefs that shape a countries media?)."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saizou View Post
    Good grief. You don't know where I come from, you don't know anything about our media, and you automatically assume that I get my information from some leftist talk show, when even the most conservative newspapers over here say the exact same thing.
    well ure locations is set 2 finland...
    If uve gotta draw the line sumwhere, make sure its drawn in pencil

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jakko View Post
    Ummmm, not to sound argumentitive, but weren't you just doing the same thing, assuming that everything he believes, all that he knows, are distortions of the truth, "Republican propoganda?"
    His arguments are the exact same ones that various right-wing pundits have been repeating.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jakko
    Wasn't his comment just a rebuttal to your original statement, dismissing out of hand what he says, without even knowing "where [he] come[s] from,
    If you read closely you'll notice that I've actually explained my reasoning, and defined the terms I use while all he has done is throw around insults and unsubstatiated opinions.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jakko
    [and] you don't know anything about our media(really, how can you "know" anything about the media of a country, without living there, experiencing the social norms, education systems, and beliefs that shape a countries media?)."
    While it is true that you and martyr certainly have a far more intimate familiarity with the US than I have, I daresay that I still know one or two things about your country. On the other hand, I'm willing to bet ten bucks that martyr doesn't know jack shit about Finland.

    Thus, his accusations are entirely ignorant, while my statement about Republican propaganda has at least some substance behind it.

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    I want everyone to look at Saizou's status and ask for a moment of silence to reflect on the fact that there is a point at which you should stop arguing with them. I ask for proof, he gives insults, and yet more opinions. Where are his statistics? His expert witness testimony? Where is his EXPERIENCE, his CONNECTION, his AUTHORITY to speak on such matters if he doesn't have proof? Its not there? Your catching on.

    I don't mind arguing, even against me, but if your going to do it, back it up, or shut it up.

    For those of you who DON'T like me you can just call me authoritarian and a Nazi (wouldn't be a first, either XD so don't think your being noncomformist XD)

    P.S. I'm still laughing about his "Maybe you should stop assuming that you must be right, logic and facts be damned. " As he has yet to actually give any facts, some logic sure, but based on assumptions.

    Also, I know quite a deal about finland, as two good friends are from there and my family is mostly european.

 

 
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