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    Originally Posted by coolerimmortal
    Oh, so all of those AIDS patients deserve it because they fucked people and/or did drugs? Fuck off.
    Quote Originally Posted by Miles Edgeworth
    Well, yeah. If you do drugs, and get aids in the process, it's your fault for doing drugs in the first place. And if you go around sleeping with prostitutes, enjoy your AIDS. Yeah they *imo* deserve it, because you shouldn't do drugs or sleep with scarlet women as far as I'm concerned. Problem is, sometimes their kids are born with it too, and also they can pass it on to their spouses (who wouldn't have known that they were cheated on) which sucks. Other than that, it's all good.
    Quote Originally Posted by coolerimmortal
    And what about the people who slept with someone who had AIDS without knowing it? The ones who were raped by someone with AIDS? AIDS patients don't "deserve it".
    Ok, lets look at your main point of contention.
    Miles Edgeworth responded to the comment, "because they fucked people." Miles responded, and then everyone went off the deep-end accusing her. The problem is, she was completely right, and here is my reasoning.
    1. Miles was talking about individuals having sex with prostitutes, and only prostitutes. That is what the topic of this thread is about, and that is what she is talking about. Notice that in the two sentences she talked about contracting AIDs from having sex, she was talking about "prostitutes," and "scarlet women(another name for prostitutes)."
    2. Coolerimmortal then responded with attacking her, saying that she is also condemning those that are rape victims, and those that had regular sex with another (non-prostitute) person, without knowing they had Aids. This is wrong on several points. Miles never mentioned anything about these cases, only sex with prostitutes specifically. Also, if you notice coolerimmortal's original post, it referred to Aids deriving because "they fucked people." It does not refer to being "fucked," or, more specifically raped, so there is no way that Miles could have been referring to that in her reply, and there is no reason why cooler should have inferred that, or included that, in other words, the "rape" thing is completely random and off-topic.
    Quote Originally Posted by Tevesh
    I love Christians.

    They're so quick to condemn, thereby failing their own religion. Good thing my relationship with God is on such good terms.
    You know, I don't remember Miles ever saying she was a Christian, so it is incredibly biased(and, one could be so bold as to say, bigoted) to assume that because she takes this stance, she is a Christian.
    Also, I agree that it is wrong to condemn people, however, as I see it, she is not comdemning people. There is a famous Bible passage, which goes, "You reap what you sow." In other words, It seems to me that Miles is merely saying that if you sleep around with many different people, then you shouldn't be surprised if such a thing happens, it is in someways literally like playing russian roulete. She is not condemning those people, rather saying that we are all responsible for our own actions, and need to accept the outcome's of our actions. She is saying if you have sex with dubious people(she is specifically talking about prostitutes, remember, people that are paid to turn their bodies into toys for others), you must be willing to take that risk.

    Quote Originally Posted by shendolyn
    Wow, you're a really horrible human being.

    Also, prostitution should be legalized because of taxation purposes, prostitutes could be required to take regular STD tests, and prostitutes would not be afraid to go to the police (since they're not breaking any laws) if a john hurts/rapes/robs them.
    I don't think it would cut-down on the amount of rapes, though. Does anyone actually have evidence of this (like stats from a country where prostitution was illegal and was then legalized?)
    Wow, it seems to me that you are mixing up who is the horrible human being here.

    You take what she says completely out of context, come to a completely wrong conclusion, condemn her, and then put on a self-righteous face about the whole thing, all the while making a grave insult against her.

    Shame on you.

    P.S. - I don't see myself as a good person, I see myself as a horrible human being, the chief of sinners. What I am saying to shendolyn, I am not saying as a "self-righteous" person, but as one bad person to another. So there, the last comment I made was not hypocritical. Not at all. Not even a teansy-weansy bit. =p

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    Prostitution is paid under the table. No records. Can't tax.

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    -points at the bunny ranch(i believe thats whats it is called)-

    A brothel right there, so.....yea.......

    Love the stamp cooler, lol.
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    Thanks for understanding Jakko, I only meant that people who sleep with prostitutes and do drugs (sharing needles) are the ones who deserved it, and they only brought it on to themselves. Also I am not Christian, and I see nothing wrong with using protection or whatever. Dunno why coolerimmortal is so eager to make me out as some evil guy who wants everyone to have aids. Which brings me to my next point, I am a guy, not a girl

    Anyway coolerimmortal, I thought I made it obvious already. I said aids was like a penalty, doesn't make it so for everyone who has it (i.e rape victims). Those people are just really unfortunate, and I already said it sucked that children can inherit the disease and that it can be passed unknowingly to innocent people. That is, people who slept with someone who previously slept with a prostitute without knowing this fact. Don't see why I have to point out so many details really, it's quite easy to see what my position is judging from my post.

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    Hey, watch this...

    -> *shrug*

    Oh yeah... Though I admit I used the wrong terminology, I should have said Catholic. The reason why I said that is because of a certain thread that has certain Popes in it. :P

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    hey, i'm catholic.

    but i can understand where you are coming from..

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    How did I take it out of context? He (she?) plainly stated that if you contract AIDS through drug use or promiscuous sex then you deserve it and then RESTATED it again. I quite understand what he's saying and am still disgusted by it. The people affected by AIDS do not deserve it. I don't care what a person did to get AIDS, the disease is a long and painful death sentence that no one deserves. AIDS is not a punishment from God or whoever for committing sins.
    So sorry for advocating compassion over callousness.

    Also, I resent Tevesh saying Catholics are quick to condemn. I myself am Catholic.

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    If you sleep with alot of pople there is a chance that you will contract an STD such as AIDS. She never said that they deserved it as punishment but that they should be willing to accept responiblity for their own actions and not blame others. Btw though, isn't saying that it is 'punishment from God'(s)/goddes(es) blaming god(s)/goddess(es)?

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    He did not say anything about accepting responsibility for ones actions. He said that if you do something that he considers to be bad then you deserve to get a horrible and deadly disease. Yes it is their fault for contracting AIDS, but, again, no one deserves AIDS. No one deserves 5+ years of painful and expensive blood transfusions only to watch their body slowly degenerate until they are nothing more than a bed-ridden sore-coved skeletal human that can't even piss without assistance.

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    @CoolerImmortal
    I don't know what you getting all mad for, like i said, i meant no offenses and there are no better words to describe what i said. It is what it is. So i don't get the point you are trying to make.

    As for the 2nd paragraph, i was describing the Politics that exist between the FCC,Cable provider, tv stations and Advertisers(money paid to advertise products). How the more money they pay, the more taxes go to the government and Each of these three giants(cable provider,tv stations and ad) all pay taxes. Which is why the FCC tries to put a lot restrictions on what we watch to attract more viewers and more viewers means more money for advertising.
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