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    Nighthawk18 is offline Senior Member Respected Member
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    same with mugabe
    If uve gotta draw the line sumwhere, make sure its drawn in pencil

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    Okay, current or past manifestations of communism. It's a system that functions only with each individual's willingness to participate. They should not force people into communism. Furthermore, they attempt to propagate ignorance, whereas each individual should be able to reflect and appreciate the benefit of communal benefit over individual benefit and act accordingly.

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    Bleh, communism is an ideaology that is, seemingly, designed to bring about the unintentional self-destsuction of a economy, society, or both.
    (i do not know what it is about you that closes and opens; only something in me understands the voice of your eyes is deeper than all roses) nobody, not even the rain, has such small hands.

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    What? even with your vast array of weapons, you cannot defeat our strength.
    And our Nuclear Arsenal.

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    Or my boobs Ishie... you can't beat my boobs.

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    Communism is beautiful. It's a way for society to be moral. No class conflicts from selfishness. It's perfect.

    Utilitarian morality, the words of John Stuart Mill:
    "...utility would enjoin, first, that laws and social arrangements should place the happiness or the interest of every individual as nearly as possible in harmony with the interest of the whole; and secondly, that education and opinion… should so use that power as to establish in the mind of every individual an indissoluble association between his own happiness and the good of the whole, especially between his own happiness and the practice of such modes of conduct… as regard for the universal happiness prescribes; so that not only he may be unable to conceive the possibility of happiness to himself, consistent with the conduct opposed to the general good, but also that a direct impulse to promote the general good may be in every individual one of the habitual motives of action..."

    Communism is a perfect example of this.
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    The apparent fascination with communism that certain individuals seem to harbor is understandable, but somewhat misguided. Communism doesn't lead to an moral and egalitarian society, rather its own methodology works against its goals and the end result is inevitably merely replacing the old oppressors with new ones.

    It is therefore unreasonable to expect that the goals of socialism, i.e. an egalitarian and moral society will be fulfilled by communism. It is an ideological dead-end that only hampers true progress. The reasonable path towards socialism is Social Democracy, as outlined by Eduard Bernstein.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cronik
    Communism is beautiful. It's a way for society to be moral. No class conflicts from selfishness. It's perfect.

    Utilitarian morality, the words of John Stuart Mill:
    "...utility would enjoin, first, that laws and social arrangements should place the happiness or the interest of every individual as nearly as possible in harmony with the interest of the whole; and secondly, that education and opinion… should so use that power as to establish in the mind of every individual an indissoluble association between his own happiness and the good of the whole, especially between his own happiness and the practice of such modes of conduct… as regard for the universal happiness prescribes; so that not only he may be unable to conceive the possibility of happiness to himself, consistent with the conduct opposed to the general good, but also that a direct impulse to promote the general good may be in every individual one of the habitual motives of action..."

    Communism is a perfect example of this.
    So, the idealogy of communism is to force people to think a certain way, and destroy their ability to think for themselves? Basically, take away freedom of thought?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Saizou
    The apparent fascination with communism that certain individuals seem to harbor is understandable, but somewhat misguided. Communism doesn't lead to an moral and egalitarian society, rather its own methodology works against its goals and the end result is inevitably merely replacing the old oppressors with new ones.

    It is therefore unreasonable to expect that the goals of socialism, i.e. an egalitarian and moral society will be fulfilled by communism. It is an ideological dead-end that only hampers true progress. The reasonable path towards socialism is Social Democracy, as outlined by Eduard Bernstein.
    The latter expression of your definition is truly and utterly false. Progressive socialism has seen much success in Canada and has allowed the country to practically flourish under its ideology.

    Your sources can do nothing more than speculate and slight the character of the great red hope!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rainbow Randolf
    The latter expression of your definition is truly and utterly false. Progressive socialism has seen much success in Canada and has allowed the country to practically flourish under its ideology.

    Your sources can do nothing more than speculate and slight the character of the great red hope!
    WTF? Don't you even know that Social Democracy is progressive socialism? Get educated before you flame.

 

 
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