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    It's not about what they have, but what can they do with it, besides, without money, there's no food. Also, Who prefers studying rather than having fun? That's why I said, lack of direction, wich they should have, wether they want it or not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dante Obscuri
    Also, who prefers studying rather than having fun.
    Well even the most rebellious kid out there will try and find a way into getting a living, even if it's selling drugs. But I have seen the way these people are in Africa and trust me, you can't imagine how BAD their mentality is.
    One day, go there and see for yourself. I wouldn't believe it either till I went there.

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    I've never been in Africa, but for what I've seen, I came to the conclussion that they were mostly living the way they are because of the muslim oppression, and their poverty. Is hard to belive that they rather die than to work, and I live in a really poor country, wich makes it more unbelievable to me.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dante Obscuri
    I've never been in Africa, but for what I've seen, I came to the conclussion that they were mostly living the way they are because of the muslim oppression, and their poverty. Is hard to belive that they rather die than to work, and I live in a really poor country, wich makes it more unbelievable to me.
    What you see on TV just makes it look like they can't help it.
    I've seen it with my own eyes that they are just really lazy and overly dependent on other countries.
    My father is a scientist and he has analysed the soil of many African areas and the climatic conditions. He told me a billion times that if the cultivable lands of Africa were properly used, there would be enough crops harvested in one season to feed the entire human population of the entire planet for 30 freaking years.
    Moreover, the soil is so amazingly fertile and he can grow sugar cane and other crops without using any fertilizers AT ALL.
    That's how stupid and retarded Africans are.
    My father told them about the 80+ year old Chinese women cultivating rice all day long and all year long. The Africans wouldn't believe him and seemed to be shocked at the idea of such hard work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Issalroc
    You don't live in a 3rd world country, so stop thinking it's that simple.
    You do have some good points, but thinking they can be simply implemented and that the bigest problem is lazyness is just having a childish mentality. My country inherited lots of the african culture and belive me, even if it's only doing sub-human jobs that people will be able to live they will do it.
    I've lived in a third-world country for YEARS. =\
    You don't even know me nor my past history.
    I've also helped the Red Cross on many occasions helping the poor.

    Not laziness, eh?
    I drive into the factory at 7am and I see hundreds of field workers lying around in the yard doing absolutely nothing when they were supposed to be at the fields at 4am. They have a two hour lunch break but they always stay away from work for an extra hour. My father even told me that they always purposefully sabotage machinery just to not work.

    You live in South America, right? I've been to Chile, Uruguay, Brazil and Peru and S. Americans are nowhere close to how bad Africans are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Issalroc
    If you lived in a 3rd world country you should know about the imense social inequality, corruption, goddammed small salaries, violence, bad education and blatant manipulation of the people.
    There are such things even in the richest countries int he world.

    Quote Originally Posted by Issalroc
    And they don't get fired? Unbelivable.
    They can't fire them since the Senegalese goverment and syndicate protect them. Fire one and you could have an entire village causing riots.

    Quote Originally Posted by Issalroc
    And also, if I had to do field work for many ours a day and receive an unaceptable payment I'd also be pretty fed up and would probably do the same thing. It's a normal reaction. Put yourself in that place, basically working like a slave(you can't quit, because you wouldn't find another job, and there are many people wanting your job, so you're easily thrown away. Also, you'll do incredible amounts of work in bad conditions and get a horrible payment).
    Oh they do get paid. Moreover, they only work for like 12 hours a day for 6 days a week. They just want to get paid for doing nothing.

    I currently work 12 hours a day 6 days a week (Noon-midnight; Mon-Sat) but I had to work for 10 hours today too.



    They won't quit because the company can't touch them due to forementioned reasons. Why would people want their job when they can just leech on the Red Cross and FAO?



    By the way, I hope you live in Sao Paulo because it's one of the most awesome place I've been in my life. =D
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    Quote Originally Posted by Issalroc
    And you don't do physical work like cutting and carying stuff for 12 hours a day, do you? And you also make much more in a week than they make in whole month I'd bet.
    You are right on this point, but just tell one of them that there are younger kids and older women toiling much more than them and they will be horrified.

    My father went to Brazil a couples of weeks back to buy millions of dollars' worth of equipment to lighten the workload of these seemingly poor people. The real reason is that if they depended on workers, no work would be done and they will only work with machines.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Issalroc
    Is your father Bill Gates? lol jk
    No. They work with machines because it's much cheaper. Machines don't get sick, don't die, don't mame themselves(but they break ocasionally), don't go on strike, don't make mistakes, don't have sindicates, don't get paid(they have to be bought, but in little time they make that up) and machines are much more productive than any human will ever be.
    1 am. going to bed now before I pass out.
    The Senegalese will only work with machines because it makes their life easier.

    My father is just the "boss" there. The owner is a billionaire though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Issalroc
    If you lived in a 3rd world country you should know about the imense social inequality, corruption, goddammed small salaries, violence, bad education and blatant manipulation of the people.


    And they don't get fired? Unbelivable.
    And also, if I had to do field work for many ours a day and receive an unaceptable payment I'd also be pretty fed up and would probably do the same thing. It's a normal reaction. Put yourself in that place, basically working like a slave(you can't quit, because you wouldn't find another job, and there are many people wanting your job, so you're easily thrown away. Also, you'll do incredible amounts of work in bad conditions and get a horrible payment).

    There's no way to change a country without education and social equality.

    And yeah, I'm brazilian.
    I don't see why you are trying to compare yourself to Africa. Brazil's poverty is nowhere near Africa's. Brazil is number 9 on GDP list. So it is the ninth richest country in world. only in the Northeast that the African descenst is dominant. 54 % is white so you can say Brazil is predominantly white.


    ANd like Jyuu said , If the people were Workhards they would have been Today's CHina. they sitting there waiting for Aid and when they get it, they wage war with it. Going around feeling sorry for yourself and waiting for aid won't get you Nowhere. just like over here, do you think People on Welfare like to work??
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    Quote Originally Posted by ghost305
    ANd like Cold-Nite if the people were Workhards they would have been Today's CHina. they sitting there waiting for Aid and when they get it, they wage war with it. Going around feeling sorry for yourself and waiting for aid won't get you Nowhere. just like over here, do you think People on Welfare like to work??
    Ummm, what? I guess I'm sort of lost here, but what do I have to do with anything?
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