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    Israel won't be supported by America for too long dude. Whenever they're in a pinch, Israel calls American soldiers, and ask for peace. American soldiers come and act as a peace keeping force. Anyone who wants to harm Israel has to go through the American forces, but Israel still plays dirty and continues doing operation on the other side, like for example how they captured those 5 people from the hospital a few days ago, AFTER they've announced that the war is over. This is rude and tactless, but what can we expect from people he kill 1000 over the capture of 2 soldiers (which they never got back btw).

    So the opposing side, naturally, will be pissed. And they'll want to get Israel back, with USA standing in the way, thus making USA their enemy as well. Basically Americans die in these wars because of Israels actions. Eventually the USA will wash its hands of such ingrateful people. France was supposed to send them support in this recent war with Hizbollah, but then decided they didn't feel like it. The supposedly strong ties are breaking, and you should see how Jews compalin on forums, calling the USA cowards for not helping them and such.

    Also, the Israeli army is not good at fighting wars, though they think they are. But we've been shown in the 70's that they sucked when they had to call the USA for help when the Arab armies ganged up on them. Now look, they couldn't even defeat Hizblollah, and look at how long it took them to cover little distance, and accomplish nothing but kill civillians. Honestly, they lost their supposedly invincible tanks to missles from the hizb, and they also had one of their top secret undetectable ships blown up. They lost this war mate, everyone knows it. They went in, killed civillians, lost over a 100 soldiers, and left. They never even faced the true Hizbollah fighters, as those guys were deep in lebanon and were waiting for them to come. Instead they were fighting hizbollah reserves and volunteers that were quickly trained. The reason Israel didn't push any further was because they knew if they did, they would be fighting Hizbollah for real, and it would be a long and extremely vicious struggle.

    And now, lets say that the 1000 people they've killed have an average of 5 relatives each, now you have 5000 pissed off people. If you read the article "Hizbollah proves a tenatious foe" on BBC (or was it CNN, I forget), one of the Israeli soldiers admitted that this is a war they'll never win. They're spawning more and more enemies, only a matter of time till their own actions turn against them, like they've always done in the past.

    They can't win against a small group of millitants, what will happen when the whole Arab world decides they've had enough and unite against them?
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    which will be soon, and we wont give a damn cuz we are tired of the whole fucking middle east. let them all kill eachother in a fucking mindless bloodbath... its all they want anyways...


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    There will be WWIII sooner or later.



    Finland will survive WWIII with the least soldier and civil deaths.

    =P



    On the other hand, I dont think US will 'annihilate' or anyone else israel and such countries.

    They got oil, remember? :P

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    about israelis army, you can't say it's weak because it cannot win against guerilla ^^ (because even the american army, which is supposed to be strong, can do nothing against it too)
    on the paper, it is good


    Quote Originally Posted by Miles Edgeworth
    France was supposed to send them support in this recent war with Hizbollah, but then decided they didn't feel like it. The supposedly strong ties are breaking, and you should see how Jews compalin on forums, calling the USA cowards for not helping them and such..
    france sent more or less 200 men for now, but it's true that before sending more troops it wants to be sure that they can do something.... (generally UN soldiers are deployed as pawns waiting to be killed defenseless)
    it's the same for other countries, that want to know what their troops would have to do before sending them.... it's the minimum they can ask

    also, france doesn't want the 82 schema to be repeated there when the FINUL had to stay helplessly while israelis tanks were invading lebanon ! if a UN force is sent there, it has to be impartial and able to shoot hezbollah as well as israelis troops if needed.


    Quote Originally Posted by Miles Edgeworth
    And now, lets say that the 1000 people they've killed have an average of 5 relatives each, now you have 5000 pissed off people. If you read the article "Hizbollah proves a tenatious foe" on BBC (or was it CNN, I forget), one of the Israeli soldiers admitted that this is a war they'll never win. They're spawning more and more enemies, only a matter of time till their own actions turn against them, like they've always done in the past.
    yes, that's exactly the problem, and israel doesn't seem to have understood it, as well as america unfortunately

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    It's funny that Israel has absolutely no chance at winning this war unless:
    a)many countries with good military forces decide that Israel must survive and help to destroy the Gaza Strip, the West Bank and a bit of Lebanon to silence them for a while.
    b)they nuke the entire area, but that will not happen.

    And now for the realy funny part: If Israel decides to make peace they loose anyway!! Isn't that funny?
    It's so simple: The birth rate of the Israeli is crapy but the birth rate of the Palestinians is great! I dont know how much but 3-6 times higher, so if both countrys sit around for a few years, the Israeli wouldn't even be able to claim this land as there own anymore. lol

    The idea of "giving the poor jews an own country" was STUPID from the very beginning.

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    stupid or not, they shouldn't have make the new country without asking for the consent of the people living there and around it ^^"

    second, israel doesn't have enough space because israelis from around the world tend to go there so the birth rate is not an issue, at least for a long time
    they have everything to win within peace (do i sound like a miss universe here ? )

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    i'll show you some pics of what the Israeli forces are trying to kill!

    WARNING!: some pics got some unpleasent scences and alot of blood!

    is it hezbullah or lebanon itself?

    http://members.abunawaf.com/balot/aug/1.jpg

    http://members.abunawaf.com/balot/aug/2.jpg

    http://members.abunawaf.com/balot/aug/3.jpg

    http://members.abunawaf.com/balot/aug/5.jpg

    imagine that this you and your beloved dying in front of you?....what would you do?.....Israeli Actions are causing more fear and hatered among the neighboring countries by causing all of this!!!.....and the one who started it is Israel politians themselves and those damn Extremests who holds the power!!

    those pics are only a mere samole of the size of destruction that befalled on Lebanon...


    and these too!

    http://www.lebanonundersiege.gov.lb/...114945-pih.jpg

    http://www.lebanonundersiege.gov.lb/...193408-pih.jpg

    http://www.lebanonundersiege.gov.lb/...195112-pih.jpg

    http://www.lebanonundersiege.gov.lb/...6_MDF62562.JPG

    http://www.lebanonundersiege.gov.lb/...NG_AXLP104.jpg

    http://www.lebanonundersiege.gov.lb/...NG_AXLP117.jpg

    http://www.lebanonundersiege.gov.lb/...SDG_ABC111.jpg


    what do you see here?......all the casualties and those who've died are all Civilians and mostly kids!!!!!.......try to prove that i am wrong here!....using excessive power like will cause the next generation to claim revenge on Israel because of its irresposible acts against humanity!!!

    don't you even try to convice me that i am wrong!.....


    and this is only another sample !!


    http://arbs2day.com/files/lebanon.htm



    so?.....who is the true criminal???!?
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    Exclamation marks make me moist!!!!!

    Israel has the world's best-trained military. Iti's just hard to take down an enemy who looks like the average civilian.

    Of course everyone hates Israel, they came in and took land away from the Palestinians living there already. I'd be pretty incensed if someone just barged in and took my house.



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    Did anyone realy think that, just because it is Israel, we would see a 'clean' war, with no civilians getting killed? It's war, and it's every time the same. History as we know it today was allways written by the winners of countless wars in the past and they never worte the details like: "today we killed 1000 civilians, 500 were taken prisoner, 700 were raped, ...". Just because the world can watch the war almost live today, do you think Israel will fight this war as 'gentlemen'? The civilians are always the ones who suffer the most, but the countries at war care very little about them. I hate it but the image of war never changed that much.

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    it didn't change much, however it's worse now than before for 2 reasons :
    - the so-called terrorists use guerilla methods and live in civilians areas, thus a lot of civilians are caught in the conflict
    - it's so easy nowadays with modern weaponry to kill lots of people by clicking on a button.... => murder is much more easy

    unfortunately

 

 
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