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    Icy.Blitz is offline Banned Respected Member
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    ok, sup. Im in my final year of high school, and this damn OP thing is really getting me edgy... i was jsut wondering if anyone out there has graduated under the OP system and wouldn't mind telling me about it? like, what OP i can expect with what grades. and all that OP is determined by OCS as well, i know this, however, OCS can only effect the raw grades oh so far.

    so if you wouldn't mind telling me, could someone please tell me what to expect with what kind of grades.

    ...i hate school >.>;;

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    Im from Queensland Australia. The OP System sucks and stuff yeh.
    If your a smart-case and do the classes like Physics, Maths B, Maths C and the so on, a pass in all those smart classes (a standard SA / C) will get you around an OP 6. There is also the class rankings that will affect your OP rating and also the QCS test that they make you sit. If you are achieving highly in your subjects and you are coming on top of your class, your OP ranking will be slightly higher than the others. If you have a multitude of smart people in your grade as well, it raises your school's OP standard (if you school has lots of smart people, the average person's OP will be higher than the same type of student of the same intellect going to another school). The QCS test also ranks you on your OP, but I didn't see how it changed it much. If you had done a traineeship and achieved a traineeship certificate, you can hand it in to an administrative staff at your school and they show that you have completed an additional studies upon your current workload of school, which also raises your OP score. Also, attending a local University, they usually give an OP bonus, so yeh.

    Really the main part of the OP depends on your subjects and what you get in them, your ranking in the class and the rest of the smart people in your grade pulling up you and your school OP's and marks/rankings.

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    hmmm, well i'm doing 6 OP subjects, but only 5 are counted right?

    im doing:

    Maths B
    Chemistry
    Physics
    English
    Geography

    with my 6th being Ancient History, but i bludge in that, (like sleep, >_>) so lets not count that.

    anyway, i'm getting in the Mid/High HA, and low/mid VHA's for those 5, whats a rough estimate of my OP? like...this stupid OP is freaking me out. why cant i jsut sit a huge ass exam or something.

    edit: lemmi clear that up abit. chem: HA 7, Eng: VHA 4, Geo: HA 9, Phy: HA 8, Ma: VHA 1.
    not the best of grades, but im getting scared. stupid OP
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    Well, only 5 is counted because they only count 20 'points' (5 subjects over 4 terms) which leaves 4 'points' left over to the lowest scores. Im guessing that you are hoping that Ancient History will be left out for your OP so lets check a rough estimate.

    If your school, QCS, class ranking and so on were not looked at, at this point in time, and the marks of your final exam will not be taken into consideration, lets check.

    Im gonna compare you to my friend cause he did similar subjects to you with similar scores. I'd say at the moment you will get a 5 or higher (maybe even a 4 or 3) with those current marks, but are those marks been the same over all 4 terms? If so, then you will be looking at a score like that. Then you will have to take into account where abouts in all of grade 12 that you are positioned in each class. For example, cause english (core im presuming not extended) most of grade 12 will be doing that. The class rankings will be spanned thru 400 (being highest) to 200 (being lowest). Cause English will have a overall total of a lot of students, rankings will be best if you are near the top, yet is a little bit easier cause the spanning of the rankings are less. Yet with physics (if being like my school with physics) by the end of grade 12, there wont be that much students and the rank spanning in that will be greatly larger in it, making it more critical to be ranked higher in that class than in english. After class rankings are taken into account, and grades, they will apply the QCS, which all the teachers I spoke to after the QCS, said they have a very very weird system they do to implement an OP to. In the end, QCS doesn't greatly effect your OP (a person who got OP 1 had a mediocre QCS) unless you try to fail it, which I bet wont effect your OP still.

    Just guessing with those subjects and your grades hovering arounf HA/VHA, Im pretty sure your bound to get higher than a 7 definitely (if you dont screw up big time in your final exam) and I'd say that your highest possible mark you could get would be a 2. But those boundaries would differ concerning your school. If you know that there are a bunch of people that will definitely get OP 1's (especially koreans), then I'd say that 7 lowest boundary would be a 6 or either 5. I can hardly see you getting an OP 1 unless you get straight marks for those lower subjects (Chemistry, Georgraphy, Physics, Ancient History) and perform a tad better in those already VHA subjects. But you still have to put into consideration with how you performed throughout those subjects over the last 3 terms mark wise.

    I mean, with Maths B, a HA in Maths B is equivalent to a SA in Maths C. Likewise if you did Maths A. A VHA in Maths A isn't even a SA in Maths C (so I was told by my physics teacher). High level subjects with moderate-high marks can be better than Middle Level Subjects with high marks in some cases. I would say that Physics, Chemistry would be high level subjects with the rest being middle level. With high marks already in Phy and Chem, your OP is looking good, and with already high marks in most of your middle level subjects.

    I wouldn't be too scared with your OP, cause at the moment it doesn't look too bad. Just make sure you dont screw up this last term of High Schooling. Have you made up your mind on which Uni degree you are looking at? Cause let me give you a heads-up.

    DO NOT GO ANYWHERE NEAR BACHELOR OF INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY WITH ANY LENGTH OF POLE MAN HAS MADE.

    yes...it is that bad

    edit: jeez i write a lot...also a lot of my own personal jibberish

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    well, hmm im looking at an undergraduate course towards medicine, (damn korean parents) and ive got to sit for my UMAT exam on the 26th which i am freaking out about. i plan on applying all over AuS, thus hopefully i'll get excepted into a uni somewhere T.T and our class (class - as in all yr 12) spread generally shows a parabolic spread, like normal im assuming, but we have 18 VHA's in english, and teachers are all saying that that'll help boost our OP somewhat.

    and yeah... cool, QCS wont affect me too much. and with those grades i should get around 3-7? guess that's ok, but i really need at least a 4 and lower, god i seem to be in downward spiral of gloom these days.

    oh and yeah physics only has like 28 students. lol. chem has like 35ish. english...110+ maths b 100ish. geo 25 ppl ish

    edit: btw. thanks alot for your insight.
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    Wow...I live in Vic (and am also in yr 12) and we have a completely different system over here. Just for interest's sake, does anyone mind telling me briefly how your system (this OP business) works? I've heard pretty bad things about the QLD QCS System.

    It all seems very complicated. Here in Vic, all I know is what determines one's enter score are the SACs (School Asessed um... coursework I think) which are just like big tests, practicals, experiments etc (each subject varies on the numer of SACs a unit). Your SAC mark's determine your ranking in the class. The second factor determining your enter score is the mid/end year exams. Results from each subject are moderated according to state trends etc.
    no way to way, no limitation to limitation...

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    well QCS determines your schools rank. as in, if your in a bad neighbourhood with dumbass kids, ur screwed.

    the other aspect are ur grades. pretty much all your grades from yr 12 are averaged ( i think ) at the end of the year and the overall grades from 5 of your top subjects are used in conjunction with ur schools QCS, to determine ur OP (overall position, from 1 - 25, 1 being highest, 25 lowest).

    oh, almost 4got, ur grades from ur subjects determine where u are in the class scale (called SAI, this ranges from 400 - 200, 400 being highest, 200 lowest) its actually 5 SAI's and urs schools QCS which determines ur OP.

    this system is buggy because, once again QCS is used to determine ur schools 'smartness,' some people say this doesnt matter much, some say it matters alot. its all iffy. and since this system isnt that old, its still a working progress i guess... i'd rather VIC's enter system. much easier to understand.

    ..p.s i was thinking of applying to monash ^^,

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    QCS doesnt contribute much to the OP anyway... Stupid especially when you are in the year when its full on english with poetry...
    QCS doesnt alter the OP rank enough to make it worthy of notice...just a day when you have to sit down for 3 days getting looked at of how smart you are from a bunch of people from the public being 'QCS Anti-Cheat Brigade'.

    I disliked QCS... ^^

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    yeah, im from Queensland as well graduated last year ^_^. Nobody really takes the QCS serioulsy, i dont really like it, although the writing task was pretty easy other than that most of the QCS was about english, there was hardly any maths at all which sucked.

    You should take it easy in high school, uni is gonna be better.

    @Icy.Blitz - so ur going to monash for their medicine?

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    possibly, thats why im so scared about this damn OP thing.
    i'll be applying interstate all over the place:
    as in, Adelaide, Victoria, Sydney, etc, etc about 5-6 Uni's in total i think.

    and well, apart from UMAT i really need a decent OP score and my parents are grade NAZI's hell-bent on be getting into medicine which makes it worse. oh and, it's not like i'm doing it for my parents either... over time the idea that i wanted to go into med just came gradually, and its not for the money either, cause i know for a fact that most doctors in AUS, or QLD in general don't earn 'shit' until a possible specialization, and that in itself costs a crapload. (the exams for it that is, and the 10+ years i need to study)

    and well, all this pressure and stuff, im getting all nervous. However, i know people out there have it worse etc. its just, i can't relax!!! damnit!! *sigh* i'd need around an 3 or lower i guess, but my grades don't seem good enough T.T *broods nervous thoughts in a dark corner* (oh btw. in case you were wondering why im going nutz, im trying to get in undergraduate, cause postgrad is harder XD)

 

 
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