Thread: A Sensitive Issue

how would you prove martial rape? its basicly her word against yours.

Rape is rape, no matter what gender. One of the arguments for males not being able to be raped is that they usually get aroused.... but that doesn't mean it's not rape anyway; your body's reactions aren't always your mind's. >_>

I'm for women's equality too, though I'm very traditional when it comes to relationships, and I agree that men should be able to do things like call the police for sexual abuse or whatnot. I don't see why they can't NOW.

And marital rape is still rape. Just because you've had sex before doesn't mean that you can have it at any time. Still, it's kinda wrong if the couple is... *ahem* and the woman suddenly doesn't want to and then calls rape on him. That's just taking advantage of people, especially if they went pretty far. Sex is about two people, not just what one (usually the woman) wants.

I agree that there should be a different punishment for marital rape, or rape in some kind of a relationship. The people on the street need to be put away because they're a danger to others; the people who rape their partner need to realize what they did is wrong, and hopefully not become one of those dangers.

Originally Posted by lovely_nightmare

who was it that said "it's not rape.. it's suprise sex" ???

That would be me.
I apologize. i stole it from a friend.
I have wierd friends.

You? Definitely not you. I've used that here back in 2004. And I got that back in 2000 from another social board. So what I'm saying is, surprise sex is old.

Originally Posted by Digital_Eon

Rape is rape, no matter what gender. One of the arguments for males not being able to be raped is that they usually get aroused.... but that doesn't mean it's not rape anyway; your body's reactions aren't always your mind's. >_>

I'm for women's equality too, though I'm very traditional when it comes to relationships, and I agree that men should be able to do things like call the police for sexual abuse or whatnot. I don't see why they can't NOW.

And marital rape is still rape. Just because you've had sex before doesn't mean that you can have it at any time. Still, it's kinda wrong if the couple is... *ahem* and the woman suddenly doesn't want to and then calls rape on him. That's just taking advantage of people, especially if they went pretty far. Sex is about two people, not just what one (usually the woman) wants.

I agree that there should be a different punishment for marital rape, or rape in some kind of a relationship. The people on the street need to be put away because they're a danger to others; the people who rape their partner need to realize what they did is wrong, and hopefully not become one of those dangers.

Still, I always find it weird that men get raped. It just seems, so unfitting.

I be can gone

people who rape people should suffer and die go to hell to be bitches to devils and demon being work in the inner core of earth, fire blaze, burning their skin being rape themself by devil or sons of satans.

Everytime I heard a female getting rape, I get angry, everything a grown male get rape, it kind of funny but sad at the same time. I blame it on porn, I saw a P.B.S special on it and show a female actor getting rape and disgrace and teen subject themselve in the feet of the male actor.

Rape is rape, weither it's a guy or girl getting raped. it's wrong. The reason Women are more protected ( I think ) is that, the equality is rights is an issue, men and women will never be completely equal, we have to recongnize that. They balance eachother out, but they aren't equal. Women, in general, AREN't as strong as men. This is truth, and Generalized, but still. This is why I think there tend to be more protection for women under the law.. and Marital rape? That is STILL rape. Harder to prove, but you do have to prove it don't you? Here at least I think you do, unless you are under the age of consent. Also, I agree with the Judge, there IS a breach of trust, but -shrugs- I also have a different view on marriage and sex than a lot of people here I think.


Hmm.. and maybe I'm missing something, but this IS serious, I mean, a violation of someone, in such a complete way... it's not really something to joke about.

but women should except the ills of society that men have to deal with or they shouldn't receive all of the benefits.

uhhun, and what about what they will have to deal with that men don't? Do you honestly thing that the ration of women raping men is as high? or that men except all the ills of society that women do? Like rape? I'm NOT saying that guys don't get raped but... honestly, I don't think that it's nearly as much of a worry. There is, but at the same time, again, not as high.

well, flame me if you want lol, but seriously, this is what I think

Since people have been talking about men being raped, I just want to make something clear:

Woman raping man = technically possible.
Man raping man = impossible. It's indecent assault, not rape.

Rape in itself is a sexist term - it is "unwilling penetration of the vagina". The only reason women can possibly rape men is that it may not matter on who is the unwilling party.

Originally Posted by Chizabubble

If they're married there has to be a really good case for rape. Otherwise she'd be just told stop lying. Cuts, stranggle marks, blood under finger nails and other stuff. Rape isn't just 'having sex'. It's violet and if the evidence doesn't support that then the woman is seen as lying for whatever reasons.

Nope. That's problem one. It doesn't have to be violent. It has to be a woman saying afterwards that she didn't want to, and that the man knew that. That's all.

Originally Posted by Digital_Eon

And marital rape is still rape. Just because you've had sex before doesn't mean that you can have it at any time. Still, it's kinda wrong if the couple is... *ahem* and the woman suddenly doesn't want to and then calls rape on him. That's just taking advantage of people, especially if they went pretty far. Sex is about two people, not just what one (usually the woman) wants.

That's some real fine ice you're skating on there...

Originally Posted by DE

I agree that there should be a different punishment for marital rape, or rape in some kind of a relationship. The people on the street need to be put away because they're a danger to others; the people who rape their partner need to realize what they did is wrong, and hopefully not become one of those dangers.

Yeah, here's the crux of the problem. Essentially, rape is rape, and I'm not saying it should go unpunished. But I do think we need to think about the relative merits here. For one, it is expressly stated in law that retribution or revenge is not a valid reason for a legal punishment.

Rather you have reasons like deterrence and protection. Now, in one of those heated moments where a husband may, perhaps against his better judgement, slip it in, then it's more than likely going to turn out to be a sorry state of affairs afterwards, and the husband will most likely feel very bad about it (once he realises the wife's state), and there would be next to no chance of it happening again. He's not really a threat.

When you get street abductions, gang-rapes, etc, then these are the kinds of people who are more of a danger to our society. These are the ones who should be locked up and have the key thrown away. Obviously, there are strong deterrent and protective reasons to get these punks off the street.

While I'm not saying that the husband should not be punished at all, I think that he clearly is not such a threat, and should have a sentence which reflects that.

And as for Saizou... sorry man, but I think you just missed the point entirely.