Thread: A Sensitive Issue

*moves to Italy*

Va L'Italia!

Originally Posted by Chizabubble

in Italy, no matter the circumstances, If a woman was wearing jeans, it's not rape.

that's good to know !

*/me looks for italian babes in jeans $_$*

just kidding

What about France? No 'If a woman is wearing a skirt, it's not rape.' comment?

:/

i guess that if she is not wearing a skirt, it's not a rape lol

otherwise, you better stay in italy ;p

Originally Posted by mudd00000000

Just dont ask any American male what he thinks. Becouse theres a crazy double standerd here in the states. Such as recently a teacher got cought having sex with one of her students and only got comunity servise. If it had been a male teacher he would have had the book thrown at him.

I actual think that this is the more pressing issue. Women want equal jobs with equal pay but when it comes to accepting the same rules in society you don't see any women calling for equality. I'm personally sick of bullshit like this. It's either women are equal in all parts of life, courts included, or they stop bitching about not making equal pay or whatever. This doesn't mean that I'm against womens rights because I'm all for them, but women should except the ills of society that men have to deal with or they shouldn't receive all of the benefits.

Yeah, tell me about it. The day a male employee can sue his boss for sexual harassment is the day where we can claim that there is equality within sexes. Unless the boss is hot. Then it's a liasion.

what exactly are we discussing about? isn't it about how marital rape supposed to be in different(read:lower) level than general rape?
about the issue on woman's emancipation going ambiguous, why not make it a different thread? that would really kick off...... u got one supporter already..

back to the topic, i think it SHOULD be on the same level. rape is rape. i agree with the judge. what should be fixed is how the committee sees the problem. judges should differ between woman using sex as her weapon and woman getting forced to sex.
btw, i think i've seen some episodes on this stuff in ally mcbeal..

Maybe it should, and maybe it shouldent, but you cant deny the fact that; if you place martial rape on the same level as all other, then any woman can merely say, "I was raped", and cops come running like a track team.

And as for the france thing...maybe I should buy plane tickets eh.

who was it that said "it's not rape.. it's suprise sex" ??? hmmm.. i honestly dont know.. but if my husband raped me i wouldnt go to the police id just hit him with a lamp and get a divorce.. i dont think its the same but i could be wrong because i only know the relationship i have with my husband

Originally Posted by Sherman

OK, so I don't really know how well I'm known here, so I'm a little nervous about tarnishing my good (non-existent) name, but I read something the other day that kind of made me feel a bit uneasy. I couldn't find a news article on the web for it, so I'll run it by you.

The English Courts have made a ruling (which now makes it law) that the starting point for sentencing of a man convicted of raping his wife is now to be the same as that for raping by a stranger - 8 years.

The judge said things like, "rape is rape". He said that if someone is abducted off the street, dragged off, and gang-raped, that this was still "rape", and on par with marital rape. Not only that, he said, but marital rape was even worse, because it involved a breach of trust.

Abducting and gang-raping someone is only worse than marital rape in the sense that abduction constitutes an additional immoral act. I wouldn't call any of those much worse than the other, because both are completely immoral acts anyway.

Originally Posted by Sherman

Now, I agree rape is bad. Don't get the wrong idea. But to my mind, those are two very different levels. I've read alot of rape cases, and there are some cases where the couple come home, all hot for each other... they get started... and then the woman decides to go cold, but the man doesn't want to, and is a little more persuasive... the wife gives in to her husband after all... then, bam. Rape. The woman doesn't actually have to raise any forceful objection. We're not necessarily talking about pinning the arms back and going hammer-and-tongs here.

Of course she doesn't have to raise any forceful objection. Why should she? If one party says that he or she doesn't want to continue then the other party is morally and legally obliged to stop.

Originally Posted by Sharman

Sometimes a woman changes her mind in the middle of an S&M session and decides she wants out, but the husband thinks it's all part of the game....

Again, if she wants to quit, then her husband must respect that wish.

Originally Posted by Sherman

At the end of the day, it all depends on the particular facts, but I think that as a rule, those who commit marital rape are not generally such deviant, dangerous member sof society as those who abduct and gang-rape strangers off the street. And it worries me to see that they're being put in the same basket.

Why shouldn't they? Is it somehow less immoral to rape your wife?