looking for a new mp3 player/pvp

okay so i am very tired of my 4th gen 40GB ipod and am looking for a new mp3 player or pvp. i'd been wanting a 60GB ipod video for a while, but now i'm not so sure i want to continue buying apple products. i've had a few technological issues with the one i have now and have a few gripes that would be eliminated in buying a device by a different company. also, i've noted that it lacks support of many codecs and i don't like conversion.....

itunes is a real pain in the ass, but at the same time it's quite simple and effective.

yeah but anyway, here are some things i'm looking for:
-it HAS to be 40GB or more (preferably 60 instead of 40; i don't need over 60GB, however).
-should be $400 or less
-should be either an mp3 player with video/photo support/playback or a pvp player (mostly video) with audio playback/support. it might just be called a media player (consists of audio/video/photo/some other options)
-should not be much bigger than 4.1 x 2.4 x 0.55 inches for an mp3 player
-should not be much bigger than 4.9 x 3.0 x .07 inches for a pvp
-more than 15 hr. battery life
-comes with dock or some kind of charging device and software...included, yes
-should absolutely not look like a heaping, steaming pile of grizzly bear feces
-has easy-to-maneuver-and-interact-with interface

plusses:
-supports audio codecs aside from mp3 such as ogg, wav, wma, m4a, etc.
-supports video codecs aside from mpeg-4 such as DivX, XviD, avi, asf, wmv, etc.
-relies on no software but can just drag and drop straight from windows (like w/ iriver stuff)
-has no buttons on the side but all on the face (except for hold button or maybe volume)
-touch sensitive buttons
-has intuitive search function (unlike ipod...ugh)
-has a wide variety of third-party software, peripherals, etc.
-has a screen bigger than 2.5 inches
-displays over 65,000 colors

the only thing i'm considering ASIDE from a 60GB ipod video would be a 60GB toshiba gigabeat. it's too bad that the creative zen vision:m and the archos av500 mobile dvr only comes in 30GB versions at the largest.

the ipod isn't terrible and i love the design, but i think it's time to move on. there are so many potential ipod killers out there (especially where codec support, screen resolution, and menu features are concerned) that are held back by small storage space or quasi-obscurity (which makes buying cases and such difficult).

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*erases history*

I don't mind you talking about mp3's here.

As a matter of fact, I DID make a mp3 thread before in CC a months ago. [I'm pretty sure it was pre-mod-hood.] I too was debating what type of mp3 to get and I asked for the majority's opinion.

so.. everyone... chill. =P

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Ok, on topic...
There just isn't a device out there right now on the market that fits all our prerequisites.
I'd stick with the iPod, though I admit iTunes IS a real hassle at times.

Like, mine won't update anymore.

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You can get a 40GB MP3 (video?) player for under $400? Wow. I want to live where you can get that.

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Soft deleted?

CPR, this thread is in the wrong section anyway, so you might as well lock and/or delete it, or at least move it.

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the zen vision:m would be perfect if it was in a 40/60GB format
i wouldn't know, eon...the problem is i have yet to see one bigger than 40GB to begin with :P

thanks cool for being a mediator and not a martinet. it means a lot.

edit: can you clear me up on double posting a bit?

me: post
me: posts again

or

me: post
you: post
me: post

this seems to be quite the hot topic for some odd reason. so to avoid any more craziness i'd appreciate some explanation.

and did you mean you're a brand-name person in general or when it comes to electronics?

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There were two threads before regarding MP3's in this section.
Both are gone because they were pre-nuke threads.

I made one of them. I see no problem in having a 3rd thread about mp3's

p.s.
for my 2cents about mp3s... well.. I just stick with Ipods. I'm a brand-name person usually.

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Actually, 60gb iPod videos are about $350, I think.

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Well, I have a Zen Neeon one... it's only 6GB, so that doesn't quite meet your excessive space requirement... (what the hell do you need that much space for anyway? If it's only good music you've got on there, you don't need anywhere near that much) ... but it workd pretty good for me. Little, and it does things like record things and has a radio function.

Though my mate has been having problems with his, so that may be a warning...

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i have a 5th generation 30gb ipod, and i have nothing to say about it unless that i love it.

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