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    erachima is offline Senior Member Always Around
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    I can't believe you put Rukia's status that low. She is the closest to him than anybody else, she is the only one Ichigo has spoken to about what happen with his mother. He didn't even tell Tatsuki who he's known longer than anybody else. Tatsuki told Orihime. YOu can't deny that Rukia is BLEACH's first lady. It's only fitting that she gets stronger. Bleach world revolves around Ichigo and Rukia. she has to get stronger, at least stronger than any other Ichigo's friends.
    Yea, sue me, but I hate the b*tch. She's more annoying than even Sakura or the "hime" character in Flame of Recca (which I consider the series most like Bleach) was. She's arrogant, useless, and a nag, how much worse can you get? Her getting stronger merely amplifies her irritating qualities, since generally these characters are allowed to fade into the background and just take up space and look cute. Oh, did I mention that her self-loathing really got on my nerves during the Soul Society arc?

    Besides, as far as Ichigo's friends go, Ishida is by far the strongest, and Orihime probably has the second highest potential if foreshadowing is any indicator. After that would come Rukia/Chad, order unknown.

    Uryuu freaky, pale and geeky,
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    and swords that I shoot from a bow,
    yes, swords that I shoot from a bow."

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    Quote Originally Posted by xxDoLLarBiLLxx
    1) Hitsugaya who is suppose to be a once in a lifetime incarnation of an heavenly guardian didn't win a fight till' way late against a meager arrancar.
    This is a fandom myth that was brought by inaccurate translation. Hitsugaya isn't an incarnation of a heavenly guardian, Ichimaru merely comments that he's a genius that comes once in a hundred years. But a hundred years for SS people isn't that long.

    Hitsugaya's progress is much much faster compared to a lot of his seniors like Renji, Hisagi, Iba, but it doesn't mean that he's the best in SS, it's just that he rises fast to his potential. It's like one of those genius kids who can finish university at age 14, but it still doesn't mean they will grow up to be a Nobel-winning inventor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by furato
    This is a fandom myth that was brought by inaccurate translation. Hitsugaya isn't an incarnation of a heavenly guardian, Ichimaru merely comments that he's a genius that comes once in a hundred years. But a hundred years for SS people isn't that long.

    Hitsugaya's progress is much much faster compared to a lot of his seniors like Renji, Hisagi, Iba, but it doesn't mean that he's the best in SS, it's just that he rises fast to his potential. It's like one of those genius kids who can finish university at age 14, but it still doesn't mean they will grow up to be a Nobel-winning inventor.
    It's not a myth about Hitsugaya, Ichimaru said that himself. but then again he said that in the anime and not in the manga. Any ways if he's suppose to be so strong how come he lost pitifully, he even won while breaking a lot of sweat.

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    Ikkaku MIGHT have had Bankai first, but I'm certain he's not stronger than Renji. We can tell this because Ichigo slaughtered Ikkaku and hadn't even tapped fully into his reserves (that is, he didn't remember how to fire the Tenshou because he wasn't that stressed) but against Renji he remembered Resolve and everything. The reason it's unclear if Ikkaku had Bankai first is because he said he taught Renji how to fight, but I'm thinking that was more of a mutual partnership, and they both helped each other become stronger. And as hard as Ikkaku was trying to not let anyone see his Bankai, he probably would have used it against Ichigo if he could have. If he got it before Renji it wasn't that far before. Renji's Bankai has a lot more power though (until the dye in Ikkaku's empties, anyway) it's just harder to control

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    Toushiro is only 16, give him a break. He cant fully control his Bankai due to being so young, and not being able to express the full potential it beholds because his body is so small and young. And why has he come into this? 0_o

    Anyway, back on topic. Ikkaku probably let Ichigo get hits into him, and he intentionally made mistakes to make the fight drag out longer, to enjoy it further, but perhaps he got just a little bit too cocky and eventually got it in for himself at the end of Zangetsu's shiny blade.

    But consider this, will we EVER see a serious fight between these two? They can be complete jackasses, and they'd end up attempting to find who's Bankai is the biggest or whatever. Or have some staring contest.




 

 
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