Thread: First "real" meeting with Wichigo in Bleach? (Spoiler?)

Hi Folk,

I was re-reading the manga today because nothing other happend ^^".

So I noticed something, when Ichigo and Renji have there fight in the real world, and Renji is almost at it to make the final strike and then Rukia attacks Renji so that Ichigo could get away, Ichigo goes to the secound time total out [1st time by the meno] and gets a littel insane.

Maybe after he first goes full out [fight with the meno] the hollow in him was created, because the second time he goes total out he gets (a littel) insane and also has an equal laught to Wichigo [chp 55 page 60].

[EDIT:] Renji also talkes about a "abnormal behavior" about Ichigo, so maybe this could would be the first time we actualy saw the hollow

Just a littel theory...

Dere
KP

PS:
Sorry for my very bad english, but english is not spoken in my country
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I didn't find a thread, If one exist, sorry my fault, kill the thread

huh? interesting theory

This has been discussed before, and like I said last time, he was just pissed. >_> He doesn't become hybrid until he trains with Urahara.

Originally Posted by Hitsugaya-The-Great

This has been discussed before, and like I said last time, he was just pissed. >_> He doesn't become hybrid until he trains with Urahara.

actually, that only unlocked it.

You al lremember the who rukia having to kill the vice captian of the 13th division whne the hollow took over his body right? well rukia even said that whne a shinigami dies, they are reborn into the real world as new people and that perosn was ichigo, cuz if you llok at thier pictures theyre crazy alike and it would make sense as to how ichigo cold see ghosts as a kid, and how he had the hollow in him in the first place, and also why he didnt immeditaely turn into a hollow during his training. Urahara said it was cuz he was resiting but ihtnk it was because it was already there but now it was waking up

Originally Posted by 092791

actually, that only unlocked it.

You al lremember the who rukia having to kill the vice captian of the 13th division whne the hollow took over his body right? well rukia even said that whne a shinigami dies, they are reborn into the real world as new people

So you're saying that he had Hollow powers even when he was born and when he was a human?

Also, it was never stated where a spirit goes when they die. If spirits were reborn then the word "heaven" would not exist. There are more people from the Earth than there are in soul society.

When souls in SS die they might get reborn into the human world, but they don't necessarily get to keep their memories, or powers.

and that perosn was ichigo, cuz if you llok at thier pictures theyre crazy alike and it would make sense as to how ichigo cold see ghosts as a kid, and how he had the hollow in him in the first place, and also why he didnt immeditaely turn into a hollow during his training. Urahara said it was cuz he was resiting but ihtnk it was because it was already there but now it was waking up

Kaien looking like him could be a coincidence but that doesn't make up for Ichigo's reiastu. It's the fact that he was born from Isshin gives him that power. When Kaien had died, the hollow also died, and it's existance in Kaien's soul was gone.

He couldn't turn into a shinigami during training either >_>. He was resisting because he didn't want to turn into a hollow.

well no one else wants to eb ahollow and no the whe nthe shinigamis wouldnt kepp thier memories your irght aobut that, but as for powers i would make hi ma half-blood cuz his mom was normal and ifhtat is the case how would you explain that the UBer Granfish called hi ma "Pure blood" it means that he would have to have more shinigami in his blood and it would make sense that the hollow went along to be reborn into the new body

The notion of saying that we met Wichigo before his fight with zaraki is plain wrong. Back when he was fighting renji, his reiatsu started going up because he was on the verge of death, even Byakuya said it. Didn't Ichigo come out the shaft during his training with Urahara with a mask, i think that's when wichigo was born and Ichigo became a shinigami-hybrid.

yup that last comment is the best one i heard.....if a hollow could be made when someone goes "insane like the first guy said then alot of people would be turning

Not possible, not worth arguing.

Oh, and your English is fine. I read through it without flinching. It's very nice since it's not even spoken. :]

Originally Posted by 092791

well no one else wants to eb ahollow and no the whe nthe shinigamis wouldnt kepp thier memories your irght aobut that, but as for powers i would make hi ma half-blood cuz his mom was normal and ifhtat is the case how would you explain that the UBer Granfish called hi ma "Pure blood" it means that he would have to have more shinigami in his blood and it would make sense that the hollow went along to be reborn into the new body

Kaein is Kaein and Ichigo is Ichigo, two different people. i don't think that Kubo will bo with the notion that Ichigo is Kaein reincarnated. The fact that Ichigo is a pure blood only means that he was born with shinigami powers, he doesn't have to go through training like other dead souls with high spiritual energy did in Soul society. Just like how when nobles are born they don't need to go through that training they are born-shinigamis.
now, about the hollow, it is not the kaein-hollow since they are both dead. the wichigo hollow was created in the shaft, even zangetsu said that when ichigo was going to fight to regain zangetsu in ichi-world he said:"your opponent is yourself".