Thread: Hirako from the beginning?

You know, Dascu, that has got to be one of the most beautiful things I've read. =]

I think he had the basic ideas planned out, not all the detailed stuff like ban-kai training with so-and-so, then the appearance of two at this time, more later, etc. If you think about it, there're gonna be turns we have yet to see, it'll be nice I say. =]

Originally Posted by Dascu

Well, he probably had something like this in mind:
->Normal world
-->Ichigo meets Rukia and get Shinigami powers
-->Introduction of other characters (one being a Quincy) (Arrancar appear)
-->Rukia is taken back to SS
-->Ichigo receives training(+Hollow inside of him), Ukitake has a Zanpaktou
The above provides some basic stuff, essential to the plot later on. Ishida being a Quincy provides a human rival for Ichigo. The Quincy link is also made later on with Ishida's estranged father, who was especially avoided throughout the first arc, yet holds a key to the arc after SS. The Quincies all being exterminated by Shinigami provide a motive and a concept of Mayuri. Hollow power and the Arrancar are main story elements after SS.

->Soul Society:
-->Side characters beat side Captains (Quincy vs. Evil Shinigami "Doctor")
-->Ichigo fights Captain (Zaraki) that he can beat, on pure strength
-->Aizen dies (main key to after SS arc)
-->Information about Ukitake and Yoruichi, them being ex-Shinigami
-->Ichigo gets training from Yoruichi (Bankai)
-->Ichigo fights that he can beat, with new skill (Bankai+Hollow)
-->Aizen, Gin and Tousen leave SS, with their Hollow friends
Several things; Ishida loses his powers in a battle against the Shinigami, mostly responsible for the extermination of the Quincy. Since Mayuri survives, his revenge isn't complete. More is revealed about Zangetsu and Ichigo's inner Hollow. Other characters, such as Ikkaku appear. Aizen mysteriously dies, for a reason clear at the end of SS. With his Bankai (and some help from his Hollow), Ichigo defeats Byakuya. It is explained why Byakuya is so strict to follow the rules. Aizen's motives are revealed, and it is shown that the return of Rukia to SS, which is the key for the entire SS arc, is actually part of Aizen's plan. Along the way, Inoue is getting more and more "jealous" of Rukia, which, IMO, will have a consequence soon.

->After SS:
-->Vizards and Arrancar appear.
-->Grand Fisher is defeated by the ex-Shinigami Kurosaki Isshin.
-->Ishida meets his dad, who will train him.
-->Several friends of Ichigo also start to develop supernatural abilities.
-->Stronger Arrancar appear. 2 early on, a whole bunch later.
-->Ichigo, after the Arrancar battle, seeks the Vizards for strength.
Well, here we are now. Hirako and Hiyori confront Ichigo. Grand Fisher is ironically taken care of by the husband of who he killed. Isshin shows himself to be a former Shinigami, which explains Ichigo's potential, and provides a Deus ex Machina. Also Ishida's father, who was shrouded in mist so far, provides the key for Ishida to regain his Quincy powers. Several Arrancar are introduced. Some side-characters play a decent role, and new ones are introduced. Inoue's "jealousy" of Rukia grows. After Grimjow is called back by Tousen, Ichigo wants to become stronger. The solution: The Vizards.

Everything nicely works out, I'd say.

You mean Urahara not Ukitake right?

Here if you guys wanna see him its Here

Ah, he looks so dorky and not-creepy! Weird... (But thanks.)

Does anyone else think that the girl on the far left might be Matsumoto? That's the only person I can think of who looks kind of like that.

Originally Posted by Getsuga

Him on a cover would be pretty cool, some of the arrancar (Ulquoilla anybody?) would be awesome too

I agree entirely. I'd love to see either of them, or possibly GrimmJow, on a cover. I own up to volume 15 in Japanese...I really need to take a trip to the States and hit the nearest Kinokuniya to buy the rest. But I'm not like you, I abuse the darn things for page references all the time. It's too hard to find a specific page or scene on my computer. They're still in pretty good condition, but definitely not mint.

As for Kubo planning ahead, I remember someone - but I'm not sure who - posting on here at some point a reference to an interview where he confessed to having planned Zombie Powder, his first series, way in advance, in excess of what was actually published. Since I haven't seen the interview myself, I can't really confirm that, but if anyone remembers who posted that or comes across it...it would be nice to know.

Originally Posted by Hitsugaya-The-Great

You mean Urahara not Ukitake right?

Yes, sorry. >_> Got that name messed up.

i like the style better from the early chapters... if you look at the characters then and look at em now... the difference is astounding... i guess its just evolution and better design on the artists part ... *Sigh*

im mean just look at Ishida... he looks nothing like that now...

Kubo Titie will never have them(any of the arrancars) on a cover I think, since he is afraid of killing popular or well known characters.

Originally Posted by kaom

Does anyone else think that the girl on the far left might be Matsumoto? That's the only person I can think of who looks kind of like that.

That's who I originally assumed too. Hirako does look different from what the picture is there (although still incredibly similar) so maybe that was Matsumoto's original design. Maybe she now has some slight tweaks?

Originally Posted by redrum305

Kubo Titie will never have them(any of the arrancars) on a cover I think, since he is afraid of killing popular or well known characters.

I think out of all the villains Aizen (and maybe even Gin) will have covers but I definitely think Grimmjaw is a possibility! Most of the heroes already have their own (at least from the US release perspective) so now they have different SS captains on them. If there are covers of those two people from the SS arc (Kuukaku and Ganju right?) I think Hirako should get one down the road!

actually Kubo Tite has already said that he already has thought the entire series through before he started the manga so yeah he knew he was going to plan that from the begining

*note i didnt read all the post all i read was the first

the one that interests me is the blonde female on the far left of the picture in question, I originally thought Ichi's mom, but we know she wasn't blonde. There is however a distinct gap in her two front teeth looks like Hiyori got a bit of a character revamp.