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    Shadell is offline Junior Member Newbie
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    Actually. Didn't Byakuya hold up better against Ichigo's hollow then Hiyori did. Given that Byakuya was a shinigami and Hiyori is a Vaizer, it would seem logical that Vaizer's aren't necassarily stronger.

    Also if you notice Bleach isn't that consistent with power levels. When they fought the first Menos Grande, Rukia commented how no Shinigami could fight one alone, and now we learn that captains can beat that kind with no real effort.

    Lastly Isshin was capably of taking out an arrancer (Even if not fully developed) with one attack from his zanpaktou, and as far as we know he wasn't even using Shikai.

    Thus I would agree that it varies from shinigami to shinigami. Zaraki in bankai for example would probably be able to beat up any espada without much difficulty. Also Soi Fon has the abillity to kill any opponent. Especially if they don't know how her abillity works. On the other hand Ukitake could have trouble fighting even a gillian depending on his state at the moment. Keep in mind that its been stated that some of the captains aren't as vocal about their abillities as others.

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    This is how I see the power ranking.

    Espada = Older Captains of Seireitai (sp?)

    Arrancar = 3rd seat - Vice Captains, depends if the arrancar is considered a failure or not.

    Vizards - Unknown.

    Humans - Low...

    There is no definite answer on who's stronger than who, but seeing as how Aizen handpicked his Espada that they are stronger than the vizards at least. I don't see Shinji stopping Ichigo's zanpakutou with one hand <_<.


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    -________-" to think that Hitsugaya almost lost to shauron... 10th captain against Arankaru and no.11 too....

    btw didn't Hitsugaya said that the Arrancar, esp Grimjaww, were only Gillians and not VASTRODES?

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    Quote Originally Posted by air
    -________-" to think that Hitsugaya almost lost to shauron... 10th captain against Arankaru and no.11 too....

    btw didn't Hitsugaya said that the Arrancar, esp Grimjaww, were only Gillians and not VASTRODES?
    I hope you know that the only numbers that matter are 1-10. 11 and higher are the number that the Arrancar has in order of their birth.

    >_> Even though Hitsugaya had a limit imposed on him for most of the fight right? He only had 20% of his power to fight with and after the limit was gone, he pwned Shaw Long in less than 6 seconds and one stab.

    Hitsugaya never saw Grimjow, so he has no idea what he is. In fact, he doesn't even know what the others are as well. He just took a guess and hope that they were Ajuuka and above, and not Gillians. But, Aizen reassured the readers that the 5 arrancar that died were just Gillians.


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    -______-" i'm not too sure 'bout that....... so far no vastrodes didn't show up...... and either way Hitsugaya was shocked in how strong 11 was anywayz

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    Quote Originally Posted by air
    -______-" i'm not too sure 'bout that....... so far no vastrodes didn't show up...... and either way Hitsugaya was shocked in how strong 11 was anywayz

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    Well, thanks for the information that everyone knows. Of course there was no vastorodes that showed up yet, Aizen himself said it.

    He was shocked on how strong all the other Arrancar were too. That doesn't mean that they're stronger than Soul Society Captains.

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    It was weird how in the fillers ichigo couldnt release his bankai but in the anime he could. the only way for him to destroy the arrancars is to control his vizard side. he would so kick ass by then!
    Ever noticed how kurotsuchi's hat and shaolon's mask look alike?

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    Quote Originally Posted by redmangoose
    It was weird how in the fillers ichigo couldnt release his bankai but in the anime he could. the only way for him to destroy the arrancars is to control his vizard side. he would so kick ass by then!
    Ever noticed how kurotsuchi's hat and shaolon's mask look alike?
    fillers? anime? do u mean fillers and manga? if so, thats cuz fillers are load of crap not made by the actual autor KT, so they do wierd stuff to the storyline (like introduce Rukia early). but if *spoiler spoiler spoiler*
    u read the manga, then u would noe that ichigo is trying to control the hollow side of him

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    there are still a lot of strong shinigamis in SS.
    -I think Byakuya is still strong, in the fight again't Ichigo i thought at that time he was still stronger than Ichigo because of ichigo's inexperience with Bankai, he didn't get beat by Ichigo power wise, it was more of loss to ichigo's morals.
    -Zaraki is still a monster, he beat Tousen without BanKai and without having to take off his eye patch.
    -captain Genryousai is also a monster, check out his zampaktou and his reiatsu, that in itself is enough to make other shinigamis shit themselves.
    -captain Hitsugaya is also strong, remember he is still a kid, he is said to be the incarnation of one of the heavenly Kings, that is the reason why is reiatsu is so high, I think he needs more experience.
    -The roses captain, I think he is strong because he beat chad easily and we haven't seen him loss.
    -Soi Fong will become way stronger if she masters that technique and we haven't even seen her bankai

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    Wait...IF vastrodes didnt shown up yet, dont it mean that there is/will be 4th side in Bleach? I mean I cant see any way how could Aizen "tame" or "force to cooperate" or even defeat a being that probably can wipe one or two whole divisions with Captains and Vice-Captains alone...
    (assuming from fact that if there will be 10 or more vastrodes they could wipe out the whole Soul Society)


 

 
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