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    justlemmedl is offline Member Frequent Poster
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    i think he will be like.. let's say.. everyone from DBZ except for goku. useless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by justlemmedl
    i think he will be like.. let's say.. everyone from DBZ except for goku. useless.
    lol...any chad fans thats gonna kick his ass??

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    Everyone [from the human world] is going to have to get stronger, otherwise they're going to be left in the dust. Seeing as the mangaka took the time to carefully develop their characters and even cast them as the core group throughout the SS arc, which so far seems to have started the action. If they were just going to be trashed, then why bother to introduce them properly in the first place?

    The way I understand the story right now, the arcs before SS were exposition; we had the world laid out, and Ichigo got his powers. When the SS arc began, that was the inciting incident, seeing as there is now a central antagonist: Aizen. When Aizen is defeated, the story as we know it will essentially have come to an end. Since all the humans were part of the rising action, it's too late to chuck them in the bin now, because they have made too much of an impression on the story.

    Also, if Chad gets full body armor, I think that would look pretty strange in a bad way. If the stripe on his arm is copied to the other side, he's going to begin to resemble a car. If he walks through a parking lot, absent-minded people are going to shove keys up his ass.

    Besides, Chad doesn't need to get more armor to be more powerful. He's like Ichigo: he's got enough power to sweep lower-level shinigami out of the way, but he hasn't finessed his power enough to handle a higher-level opponent. He doesn't have enough strategy, enough techniques, or enough speed to win a fight or even hold his own against an enemy who can match his power and has all of the above in greater quantity than him. If I were to train Chad, those would be the areas I would work on. Also, increase his endurance. Kyouraku-taichou said that Chad had to fuel his blasts with his life force after a dozen or so blasts. If Chad could significantly raise his genkai, he would become utterly unstoppable to any shinigami of lower than Vice Captain level. When he increases the other areas, he will probably become able to fight equally with VCs and weaker Arrancars.

    And since people seem to dislike the idea of a Chad who can run the 100-meter in decent time (compared to the other characters), keep in mind that even if he can get his power increased by a order of magnitude, he's still going to get his ass kicked by everyone, even Ishida after he gets his reiatsu back. Everyone, and literally everyone, shinigami, Quincy, or Arrancar, has some kind of speed boost. A powerful blast is no use if you never hit anyone. I'm not saying Chad's going to be racing Yoruichi and playing tag with Bankai Ichigo, but he's going to have to get some kind of speed boost, otherwise we're looking at a "Farewell, Chad" party.

    And it's a real shame Chad is so limited, technique-wise. His battles are like fights where you only throw right crosses: rather dull, unimaginative, and quickly resolved.

    However, I think there might be an opening for Chad. While he's not going to be the spearhead of the defense wedge, he's strong enough to blow all the little guys to Hell, so that could be his contribution. Just as Orihime is unlikely to be smiting Arrancars and slaying Espadas, Chad doesn't have to be significantly powered up, seeing as Aizen's going to bring all of Hueco Mundo with him for the party, and I would venture an opinion that there are more Hollows than shinigami, Chad can have his place in the fight.

    @Akit0 and Hitsugaya_t_G: Perhaps you're right. It is likely Urahara won't train Chad, seeing as they have nothing in common. But Ururu? What do they have in common? I was thinking more Tessai myself, since both Tessai and Chad are big brutish men who use strength-based attacks.

    @Winter: I agree, the mangaka never shows more than a snapshot of combat trainign.


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    doesn't anyone think it's more likely all the humans will as a single team against a single enemy. I personally dislike the idea of humans getting as strong as beings from SS. Ichigo and Isida aside...sigh* cause they are "special". The SS has been fighting this war for centuries and then some humans come and finish it? blah.

    Anyway back to topic all the humans have some power right and training them to full would definitely keep them out of the spotlight for a while. So why not build a team not unlike those in an RPG. Orihime would be the healer/protector, Chad the tank and the other humans once they figure out WTF their powers are.

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    Playtoy - and they just become filler characters like in Dragon Ball? MAN, as much as I like Dragon Ball (what? its classic, Im sentimental), as much I hate about what they did to humans, who became useless in the early part of the story, leaving everything to those pesky Saiyans... why the heck do they have to save earth? Its not even their planet, damn it!

    My point - if they (saiyans) could save humans, than in Bleach Humans can save those damn shinigamis, thats all... Plus - how long were they (Chad and Inoue) training to become as they were in SS? Answer- 7 days... yes, 7 DAYS!! Strenght that most shinigamis gets in many, many years of firce training was gained in only 7 days!! I know, I know, its not the same thing and I cant really compare them since they are something completely diffetent, but still...

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    If Uruhara says no to Chad ... then maybe the big guy should beseech Zaraki Kenpachi himself! Chad's already pretty tough, but not very fast ... so why not concentrate on your strengths so as to make your weaknesses practically negligible? Again, kinda like the unit captain ... tough enough to handle (almost?) anyone just with sheer brute force (as in raw ability) and combat prowess. No magic, no powers or secret abilities.

    Just speculating aloud...

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    Quote Originally Posted by PLayah
    My point - if they (saiyans) could save humans, than in Bleach Humans can save those damn shinigamis, thats all... Plus - how long were they (Chad and Inoue) training to become as they were in SS? Answer- 7 days... yes, 7 DAYS!! Strenght that most shinigamis gets in many, many years of firce training was gained in only 7 days!! I know, I know, its not the same thing and I cant really compare them since they are something completely diffetent, but still...
    7 days.... imo is not a thing to brag about... it's one of the saddest thing of Bleach... first they hype the captains and now we are here discussing about humans getting on the same level.

    How much do the Shinigami live? They are almost immortals.... how much strength and combat experience can they gain in such a lifespan?
    Bleach in making humans too powerfull lose credibility. Ichigo can be the exception but let's stop to Ichigo.

    I mean.... 7 days....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Playtoy
    doesn't anyone think it's more likely all the humans will as a single team against a single enemy. I personally dislike the idea of humans getting as strong as beings from SS. Ichigo and Isida aside...sigh* cause they are "special". The SS has been fighting this war for centuries and then some humans come and finish it? blah.
    err.....what war???if its the war with the arrancars...man... it has just begun...but seriously, if ishida can do it, who not the other humans? ishida is a quincy, but he's still a human...although maybe chad wont get "that" strong...they have plenty of time since aizen needs time to complete his research...

    and plz stop with the DBZ comparison...that sucks..."-_-

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    Quote Originally Posted by OP
    Chad's already pretty tough, but not very fast ... so why not concentrate on your strengths so as to make your weaknesses practically negligible?
    Chad's strength is his strength, and his weakness is his speed, right?

    What's the point in trainging himself to be super powerful if he can't even hit the enemy?

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    I wonder if Ichigo's lil sister will be a shinigami? !!! or maybe Orihime's friend/ Ichigo child hood friend will get some powers. Ya i am bad with characters name.

 

 
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