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    Krizomet is offline Senior Member Regular
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    Maybe they want him because he improves fast, plus, he has totally different and powerful SSlayer. He might become a danger to them (if they got some vicious plans) or maybe he might help them out on something... Who knows...

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    *sigh* He's not listenin' to Rukia again I sence a classic IchiRuki Fight comin'

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    we all know that ichigo's hollow side is really powerfull, i think one of the main reasons is that ichigo's hollow side is really free spirited, he doesn't worry about danger or if he might get cut, he is fearless. it's like yin and yang. they are the same person and at the same time they are opposites. Also i think he knows more about zangetsu than ichigo since he is always with him.
    I also think that Ichigo did the right thing going to the vaizards because they are the ones who knows more and have more experience when it comes to shinigami-hollows. And I don't they will try to harm him neither.

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    otacu is offline Senior Member Well Known
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    Quote Originally Posted by exodus
    don't you guys think that kubotite is doing thae same process again, i mean he's doing the same thing when ichigo came to soul socity when he first met pachinko the bald guy.
    I was having the same feeling. It's a bit too early too tell but stil...
    That's why i think KT is a good Mangaka but won't make a big impact in the genre: he is too predictable and seriously lack originality. Meaning that he is doing a good manga with Bleach but there is nothing new or something that stand out from the genre.

    It's interesting to analyse the structure of the manga so far. After the first moments KT went in complete "shounen formula" mode. (Sometimes i wonder if he is writing Bleach with a volume of "How to write a Shounen from Saint Seiya and Dragonball to nowadays" near him.)

    In the last saga we have the 3 classic moments of Shounen in the standard order: introduction of Enemies, Training, gathering of the heroes and the battles.

    1) Introduction
    This part introduce us the new enemies of the oncoming saga. Most of times the enemies are not simply "stronger"... they are MANY times stronger previous enemies and have some kind of overwhelming advantage (Bankai) to hype the audience.

    2) The Training
    The main charachters obviously are not on the same level of the enemies and undergo some kind of training to "level up".

    3) The Gathering of the Heroes
    The main charachters in name of friendship and justice gather together and go to battle the enemies. There is some small travel and some small fights.

    4) The Battles
    The main charachters begin their duels with the enemies that conclude of course with a victory with a small advantage. Some enemies will eventually join the main charachters.

    And that's it. I'm not saying that this is bad per se. It's shounen after all. But i have the feeling that Kt is too bounded to this formula making Bleach very predictable. Other shounen skip one of this steps or merge two steps together or are completely different. In Bleach you can clearly see this steps

    1) Renji and Byakuya go to the real world to humiliate Ichigo and IShida and show off Bankai.
    2) IChgio and the lame trio do some training.
    3) Ichigo and co. go to SS and have some skirmishies
    4) Ichigo and co. fight the Captains and some join them

    I thought that SS was the end of the manga but KT went ahead with a new saga.

    1) The Vaizards (some peons) go to the real world and humiliate Ichigo & co and show off how powerful they are.
    2) Ichigo and co. go into training.
    3) ?? (my guess Ichigo and co. go to Hueco mundo to fight Aizen)
    4) ?? (the battles)

    And since we have still the Hollow theme completely ignored right now i can expect a new saga like that.

    1) ?? Some Hollow go to the real world to show us that they are many times more powerful than Aizen and the Vaizards.
    2) ?? Ichigo training...
    and so on...

    Only the future will tell us if this will come true but i'm pretty confident. To the people that will reply that "This is shounen after all!" ... remember that not all the shounen follow this steps in the same way Bleach do. KT should make the structure of Bleach less predictable imo.

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    yea i know, it is just like watching a video game. I never thought that Bleach will be over after SS because there will be too many things left unexplained. The thing that pisses me off more, is that nobody dies. And i will be even more pissed if somebody dies and they come up with a way to revive them. But one thing i will disagree though is that the way bleach showed the power level is way different from DBZ, because I think that is what messed up DBZ in the end where you use to have guys releasing powers enough to wipe out planets and they still would be weak.
    Although Bleach does follow the shounen formula with the main character having a strong sense of justice and having bunch of lackies. I also don't think Orihime's and Chad's power belonged in bleach. because when you look at them they are kinda silly expecially those fairies that comes out of hairpin where she says their name and at the end, add I reject. I thought that was the corniest thing. Chad's arm thingy is kinda weird.
    Bleach will make a big mistake if they make Orihime and Chad on par with captains.
    I think that bleach makes up for the shounen formula by having unpredictable moments and there are a lot that comes to mind: Isshin being a shinigami, Ichigo's hollow, meeting zangetsu inside Ichigo, Yourichi actually being a real person... And that is just a little bit of all the unpredictable moments.
    One thing that use to piss me off in DBZ is when each time an enemy they will go train, they really hyped things up when they went into the time chamber thing. One thing Kubo could have done with bleach is make Ichigo go through constant training, not training before major fights. Constant training will make more sense.
    One thing i like about bleach is the fights. they are the best fights you can have in an anime, the music(like the one that says: if you wanna see some action, gotta be the center of attraction...). You'd almost think that the fights were choreographed, thats how good they are. I also like the characters. coming up with the captain and the white robe over the regular shinigami clothes was bananas.

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    sounds awesome

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    Yea, Bleach is surely an extraordinary manga after all. the story becomes more and more interering. I agree that Bleach is not like other manga that only the main character having the great power, but there are tons of characters with equivalent or even higher than Ichi's power.

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    On the whole character thing, I don't care how many new characters Kubo Tite adds, because he can make them all memorable easily enough. Creating characters seems to be his best point as an author. The only problem comes when he gets so many different plot strands going at once that you can't remember who's doing what, which happened to me a couple times in Soul Society.

    I guess this chapter does answer the question of whether the Vizard live in balance with their hollows or supress them. I'd guessed balance previously.

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    but what i really wanna know is how they acquired their hollow. I don't think it is the same way as Ichigo's since he got his powers from being the son of a shinigami and only noble shinigamis can transcend shinigami powers to their kids.

 

 
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