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nah the main thing about ichigo is that maybe you can say that he became a shinigami-hollow the natural way, he wasn't in soul society before becoming a shinigami, he didn't go to shinigami academy the process he went to become a shinigami allowed him to have a hollow, because right when was he himself was becoming a hollow he open the black box that contained his shinigami powers and i think his hollow self stayed.
i don't know if this is only ichigo but his hollow look exactly like him. It's not a different being but you might even say it is probably a wicker side of ichigo, im a go even further and say that it is exactly how ichigo would be if he failed finding his shinigami powers and became a hollow

i told you he wasnt there to join them.

There has only been one hint to a how a shinigami became a vizard, and that is to use forbidden techniques. It would make sense that all the vizards would be able to use that technique on themselves (like Ichigo maybe?).

As for the vizards looking like their hollow forms, we've only seen NoName inside Ichigo's world. We haven't seen anyone else's inner hollow.

I bet Ichigo will master his Vizard in a week. Depending if he's feeling up to the job, 3 days.

But it is clear as day that Ichigo's hollow is different than the other shinigami-hollows out there. Gin,tousen and Aizen(not known yet if he has any hollow inside him) where already shinigamis before becoming shinigami-hollows. and probably the same goes for the vaizards too.

Originally Posted by redrum305

But it is clear as day that Ichigo's hollow is different than the other shinigami-hollows out there. Gin,tousen and Aizen(not known yet if he has any hollow inside him) where already shinigamis before becoming shinigami-hollows. and probably the same goes for the vaizards too.

Well we're not really sure if Ichi's hollow is different or how different it is from the other Shinigami-Hollows. I do think ichi's hollow is different, but the Vizard's training would likely not work if it was.

The training won't matter wheter the hollow is different or not since they are all shinigami-hollows. I only meant different because Ichigo's allow is not another being and by that i mean the hollow wasn't on its own before. The hollow looks exactly like ichigo, and is what ichigo would be and look like if he had turn into the hollow that time.

Originally Posted by Hitsugaya-The-Great

There has only been one hint to a how a shinigami became a vizard, and that is to use forbidden techniques. It would make sense that all the vizards would be able to use that technique on themselves (like Ichigo maybe?).

As for the vizards looking like their hollow forms, we've only seen NoName inside Ichigo's world. We haven't seen anyone else's inner hollow.

I bet Ichigo will master his Vizard in a week. Depending if he's feeling up to the job, 3 days.

Sorry to burst your bubble of enlightenment, but I behold a greater light.

Vizards are vizards because 1) They are human 2) They have shinigami level spirit inside them 3) They embraced their hollow side. There aren't any techniques. Just guts and attitude. Hirako, who seems to hold the title of leader, doesn't look like a disciplined fighter. Their hide-out is a dump, or somewhere equally filthy. Quite frankly, they're a gang, and each gang member has their own fighting style and powers.

Actually, if you think about it, Ichigo never learned to fight from anyone. As a child, he was constantly picked on and beat up, and a karate class didn't help him either. The only 2 real sources of fighting experience before the SS arc is from his dad's constant ambushes, and Urahara's "training".

Originally Posted by pentaelemental

Sorry to burst your bubble of enlightenment, but I behold a greater light.

Vizards are vizards because 1) They are human 2) They have shinigami level spirit inside them 3) They embraced their hollow side. There aren't any techniques. Just guts and attitude. Hirako, who seems to hold the title of leader, doesn't look like a disciplined fighter. Their hide-out is a dump, or somewhere equally filthy. Quite frankly, they're a gang, and each gang member has their own fighting style and powers.

Actually, if you think about it, Ichigo never learned to fight from anyone. As a child, he was constantly picked on and beat up, and a karate class didn't help him either. The only 2 real sources of fighting experience before the SS arc is from his dad's constant ambushes, and Urahara's "training".

vaizards are vaizards because they are human??they have shinigami level spirit inside them??? lay off the pipe buddy. Vaizards are group of outlaw former shinigamis who have attained hollow powers by using forbidden techniques. that's what i meant by saying ichigo gained a hollow in the natural way with no forbidden techniques or no hougyoukou. didnt you hear what urahara told isshin when they were talking about it. they were shinigamis to begin with, they have deserted SS and acquired hollow powers. before soul society ichigo also fought Renji, Byakuya who beat him and countless hollows and even a gillian.

I'm wondering.... when the vizards fight... there in there normal bodies right? I mean Ichigo still needs to rip his soul out of his body to fight. I wonder if they solve it for him.

that's actually a really good point...apart from the vizards all the others have shown up either already as spirits or have to use something or other to transport their souls out of a body...wonder why that is, any idea?