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    JZBaltazar is offline Senior Member Regular
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    69 trains, becomes stronger and loses badly. The vizard comes, goes bankai, talks big and gets pawned. Renji with Rukia appear, talk like they are so much stronger than the vizard now. Renji appears to be winning... Why do I get the feeling both Renji and Rukia will get owned pretty soon?

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    Again? :P
    Don't think so. Or not by just anyone, only by the ultimate top dogs, maybe.

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    People talking like the Vizards are the shit even before they entered the fight with the Espadas I said that they might not even be as strong as everyone was making them out to be and look they wasn't so why are people still shocked to find out that someone of Renji level (which isn't even that low) can surpass them. Renji has been around Byakuya trying to surpass him only to have Ichigo show up and do that and then have Ichigo become the savour of SS, he's had nothing but drive to be better then or at least equal to him even if he knows it might not ever happen he's never been the one to take the sideline and let shit just happen.

    The only thing being a Vizard does is give you the power to use Cero and a boost in your base stats, it doesn't mean they should be more powerful then all the current Captains or Vice Captains. The power level in Bleach will always fluctuate because of the abilities that there Zanpaktou grants them or there affinity to Kidou and Hoho. Renji has obviously been working on his physical strength which is kinda nice to see only because out of all the Shinigami we've seen we have yet to see anyone with such a base strength other then the Captain Commander and even then we didn't see much. If all of Renji stats have gone up by this much then I will have my complaints but physical strength is something miner to go crazy about.

    Everyone in Bleach seems to be special in there own way it wouldn't surprise me if Renji had the Saiyan effect and gets stronger after every battle. What I really want to know is how powerful or what tricks the other captains have learned because for this last arc it seems that KT is trying to have everybody master the thing they didn't complete.

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    I just think everyone always expected a lot out of the vizards, because whenever Ichigo pulled out his mask, his powers got a ridiculous boost. But the other Vizards compared to him they barely got squat. Although Ichigo's bigger increase in power could be explained by the fact that his hollow was originally part of his soul unlike the rest of them so his hollow is probably stronger and makes up a greater part of his overall power.

    We should be getting the new chapter soon right? it's been three weeks since the last one

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    Quote Originally Posted by black flash View Post
    People talking like the Vizards are the shit even before they entered the fight with the Espadas I said that they might not even be as strong as everyone was making them out to be and look they wasn't so why are people still shocked to find out that someone of Renji level (which isn't even that low) can surpass them. Renji has been around Byakuya trying to surpass him only to have Ichigo show up and do that and then have Ichigo become the savour of SS, he's had nothing but drive to be better then or at least equal to him even if he knows it might not ever happen he's never been the one to take the sideline and let shit just happen.

    The only thing being a Vizard does is give you the power to use Cero and a boost in your base stats, it doesn't mean they should be more powerful then all the current Captains or Vice Captains. The power level in Bleach will always fluctuate because of the abilities that there Zanpaktou grants them or there affinity to Kidou and Hoho. Renji has obviously been working on his physical strength which is kinda nice to see only because out of all the Shinigami we've seen we have yet to see anyone with such a base strength other then the Captain Commander and even then we didn't see much. If all of Renji stats have gone up by this much then I will have my complaints but physical strength is something miner to go crazy about.

    Everyone in Bleach seems to be special in there own way it wouldn't surprise me if Renji had the Saiyan effect and gets stronger after every battle. What I really want to know is how powerful or what tricks the other captains have learned because for this last arc it seems that KT is trying to have everybody master the thing they didn't complete.
    I expect a captain to be stronger than a vice captain, especially if you have been a captain for a long time. I EXPECT you to be head and shoulders about a vice captain if you were a captain before becoming a vizard. This is only a power based fight and the fact that a former captain and now vizard captain lost so disgracefully. I stand by my previous comment this is only a fight to show how strong Renji has become, yet you didn't need to sacrifice a captain in the process.

    I am starting to wonder why they made some of the vizards captains once they were excepted back into the fold. Love and Shinji were captains before but it looks like when they became vizards they actually lost power.
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