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  1. #111
    dropthesky is offline Senior Member Respected Member
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    I'm of the opinion Yourichi knows everything Urahara knows, I get the feeling they don't keep secrets from each other.

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    They have an odd relationship as it is. They're like warbuddies more than lovers at this point.

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    all that was said was that he was not a shinigami for 20 years. he could have been gone for longer. also, Rukia is supposedly only an 100 or a little more years old. it is not said when she became a shinigami, or when she learned who the 13 captains were. it could have easily taken her 70 years, and assuming she is 100, she might not have been high enough rank to ever able to make contact with the 13 captains, and by the time she did, ishin could have left. also, he would be related to the royal guards or something instead. the only other thing, which is unlikely, is that he is a member of the kidou division, which is unlikely. and howcome noone from the kidou division of soul society never made an appearance?

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    I believe some of you are looking at this the wrong way, maybe he wasnt a part of the soul society. First of all someone in the soul society would have noticed ichigo's name and known he was the son of a previous captain or outside militancy group. When Isshin and Grand Fisher "fight", grand fisher mentions that ichigo was a pure blood shinigami. Maybe this means that the Kurosaki family line from very long ago were shinigami (like the original shinigami) and had such strong reiatsu in life, they were able to tap into their shinigami powers. Obviously overtime this blood was diluted and became dormant. Ichigo unlocked it and sister didn't, but they can still feel a hollows presence
    Last edited by MugenChamp; 01-19-2007 at 03:32 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by adawgdafab View Post
    It hasn't been said recently, but I believe Isshin is in some form a Shiba.

    Shiba was at one time a Royal clan that is now fallen (not sure if it was one of the "Big Four" or not tho).

    I believe only Shinigami of Royalty can have babies and he had Ichigo, Karin, and Yuzu in those last 20 years living simply as a human in the Gigai.

    This would also show why Ichigo looks so similar to Kaien, since they would be family. And if you look at the way Ichigo, Isshin, Ganjyu, Kaien, and Kuukaku all act, then it is not inconceivable they are a family. Also, Ganjyu does look kinda like Isshin. I think he is like a Uncle to Kuukaku, Kaien, and Ganjyu (Father would be too much of a stretch I think).




    About his rank, my guess is, he was either a Old Captain (3rd or 5th Division most likely), or he was under Urahara in some form and later trained with him to get to Captain level.
    I agree with the basics of this theory as I was thinking along similar paths, Isshin is very old and a noble.

    And just because Urahara knows Isshin doesn't mean they were in the same division or even in soul society at the same time.

    I'm waiting to see what Ichigo's mother was. I don't see why she couldn't be a shinigami or maybe even a vaizard for a stretch. Just as long as she isn't a quincy, that would be too much.

    And no I don't think Urahara and Yourichi are lovers. As Terasiel said they seem to just be really old friends/comrades in arms. Although I think Ichigo might have a shot with Yourichi if he pursued her.

    And just in case someone wants to run their mouth about this being such an old thread; episode 111 of the anime that just aired this week and everyone who hasn't kept up with the manga, unlike us real fans who read the manga weekly, found out for the first time that Isshin is a shinigami. So this whole topic is now relevant again.

    EDIT: Somehow I messed that comment about fans up and people misinterpreted it. So I edited it and add more just to clear up an confusion that.
    Last edited by Dark Shroud; 01-20-2007 at 04:36 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Shroud View Post
    And just in case someone wants to run their mouth about this being such an old thread, episode 111 of the anime that just aired this week and everyone who hasn't kept up with the manga like us real fans found out for the first time that Isshin is a shinigami. So this whole topic is now relevant again.
    Wouldn't you want to avoid this thread then and make a new one?

    For all you know there could be relevant info in the manga that hasn't been shown yet (there isn't in this case, just saying).

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    Yeah dark shroud, you're a real fan...but you don't read the manga...So did you enjoy the fillers...huh real fan...did ya?


    As we all know, KT can turn Isshin's captain coat into any good story that'll be accepted. I really dont see a reason to speculate if he came from a land full of long living creatures that obviously dont know him...

    And also, he said any one of captain class or higher can control their sword's size (of course this wasn't said for no reason, someone gangsta will appear and will use that rule to their advantage). No way to tell that as if he meant he was/is a captain or if his reatsu is just AT LEAST captain level...

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    Quote Originally Posted by StealDragon View Post
    im deleting bleach manga from my comp (got like 4000 pages of it... too much harddisk space >.< ) anyone remember what chapter he kills grand fischer in??? and also i think he wasnt a captain or a anything... just one strong ass shinigami who left SS... i wont rule out the possibility of his captainship but the fact that no one recognizes the Kurosaki name is enough proof for me
    You should burn them to a CD becusae i know in a few weeks youll be wanting to see something from chap 168 and you can't cause you deleted all of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Shroud View Post
    I'm waiting to see what Ichigo's mother was. I don't see why she couldn't be a shinigami or maybe even a vaizard for a stretch. Just as long as she isn't a quincy, that would be too much.
    Masaki was a vastorode-based arrancar. Her power transgressed to the point there she didn't need to hunt oter souls. Isshin bumped on her in one of his hi-class missions. At first they tried to kill each other put soon fell in love. SS and HM obliviously wouldn't accept this pairing, so Isshin and Masaki escaped to Earth, where they entered in Urahara's stealth/spirit-drainning fully functional gigais, married and had children. But HM had no intentions to let her go...

    Nah. Probably, she is just spirit-sensitive human like Orihime. And Isshin, Ruuken and Masaki was at the same situation as Ichigo, Uryu and Orihime now. Te-he, I found new point for Ichihime...

    But Masaki could be a Princess from Roual family. And Isshin was her guardian...
    Last edited by 000_; 01-20-2007 at 03:14 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 000_ View Post
    Masaki was a vastorode-based arrancar. Her power transgressed to the point there she didn't need to hunt oter souls. Isshin bumped on her in one of his hi-class missions. At first they tried to kill each other put soon fell in love. SS and HM obliviously wouldn't accept this pairing, so Isshin and Masaki escaped to Earth, where they entered in Urahara's stealth/spirit-drainning fully functional gigais, married and had children. But HM had no intentions to let her go...

    Nah. Probably, she is just spirit-sensitive human like Orihime. And Isshin, Ruuken and Masaki was at the same situation as Ichigo, Uryu and Orihime now. Te-he, I found new point for Ichihime...

    But Masaki could be a Princess from Roual family. And Isshin was her guardian...
    .....I don't want to seem rude or anything, but...Vasto lordo are a hollow type( correct me if im wrong). Arrancar if im not mistaken, could turn into arrancar only after Aizen used the Hougyoko on them, right? Because all the Espada are the Adjuchas(sp?), and we have yet to seen a Vasto Lordo type arrancar. And Masaki died six years ago. There is probably something wrong with this theory, so please don't go all loco on me -.-

 

 
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