Thread: ikkaku (spoilers up to 206)

Originally Posted by ocasas

Originally Posted by MagoKui

Its hilarious how the one of the major debates discussed about Bleach has little to do with the show.

Vizored
Vizards
Vissored
Vastrodes
Vastolode
Vast Lords


Friggan hilarious

You are the one that make me laugh....

Vizored or Vizards are the shinigami that gained hollow powers (Hirako, Hiyori)

Vasthrodes, Vastoorodes or Vast Lords are the highest kind of Menos

The thing with the different names is that when KT wrote them in japanese they are treated as foreing words, so the literal translation cannot be made until KT himself writes the name in our caracters.

I dont remember hinting that Vizards(?) or Vastrodes(?) were the same thing. That wasn't my point, I was making pointing how there were multiple opininos on the spellings of them.

I'll remember to seperate them next time:

Vizored
Vizards
Vissored

Vastrodes
Vastolode
Vast Lords

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Regardless of the literal translation, I love seeing the multiple posts where people attempt to correct each other in vain.

Originally Posted by deadtool13

first a warning, this thread has a spoiler to what was my personal favorite part of the manga. so... whatever.

Anyway even though he has a bankai, i'm wondering if ikkaku is really at the captain level. He beat that one human hollow (what are those things called?) before the other higher level characters did ( Renji and white haired little shit captain whose name i can't spell). i'd love it if Kubo made put him on a level close to ichigo.

I neither dont know the names of the shinigami captains nor how the hollows under Aizen´s command are called but you want to discuss about Ikkakus level?

Learn the names first.

I'll help out:

little white haired guy: Hitsugaya Toushirou

folks under Aizen: Hollow Society
his hollow-shinigami people: Arrancar
(then you got Arrancar who are made from lesser hollows and from Vastrodes and stuff)


feel free to correct or insert


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IMO: Ikkaku IS captain level but no where near Ichigo level.

Is it just me or does it seem like Arracanar Initial release=Bankai cuz so far shikai doesnt seem to even affect arracanar except that wimpy d roy guy...

Originally Posted by Lizard

His captain is Kenpachi,right?Ichigo had close draw in figh with him..WHere is that easy part?
However I agree that Ikkaku is nowhere near Ichigo.Plus his oponent was probably made from one of the lesser hollows(what is that name?)Other captains are probably fighting again oponents made from Vast Lords(If you consider their human shape)

If you consider his strength now as compared to when he fought Kenpachi...

When he fought Kenpachi: He didn't even have his shikai mastered; now he has his bankai which he can call on whenever. And his Getsuga he can also call upon whenever he wants.

Originally Posted by Getsuga

Originally Posted by Lizard

His captain is Kenpachi,right?Ichigo had close draw in figh with him..WHere is that easy part?
However I agree that Ikkaku is nowhere near Ichigo.Plus his oponent was probably made from one of the lesser hollows(what is that name?)Other captains are probably fighting again oponents made from Vast Lords(If you consider their human shape)

If you consider his strength now as compared to when he fought Kenpachi...

When he fought Kenpachi: He didn't even have his shikai mastered; now he has his bankai which he can call on whenever. And his Getsuga he can also call upon whenever he wants.

If I understood it right,in the last hit,he used ALL of his power and power of his Zangetsu.Mastering shikai,or bankai had gived him finesse,and mastered using its pure spiritual energy into attacks,however,it didnt made him stronger in terms of pure spiritual power.Yes,he would probably win now,using his bankai and shikai,but he definetly wouldnt have easy fight,or even clear chance to win.
Ichigo must probably do that "uniting powers with Zangetsu" thing again,or use his hybrid abilities to win.
And I dont mention how would Ichigos chances look if Kenpachi would learn even shikai....

a kenpachi vs. ichigo rematch wouldn't be a walk in the park for ichigo. last time zaraki only used his real power at the very end of the fight. plus he could use a similar tactic to the one he fought tousen with. (Catch the sword with any part of your body and slice the crap out of your opponent)

Originally Posted by deadtool13

i thought his finished first because eduardo was a weaker hollow. for the record i do think ikkaku is stronger than renji. on a side note is what hitsuyga(?) is using his shikai or his bankai? i don't remember him ever attack with his bankai, but that doesn't look like what he fought gin with

I thought he attacked Aizen with his bankai (which looked super baddass) but Aizen owned him quickly with his irresistable illusions. Remember? his arm got all covered in ice and he got those dragon-esque ice wings. Actually, now that I'm thinking about it, the Anime is at this point exactly.

Originally Posted by MagoKui

Its hilarious how the one of the major debates discussed about Bleach has little to do with the show.

Vizored
Vizards
Vissored
Vastrodes
Vastolode
Vast Lords

Friggan hilarious

Vaizards
Visswords
Vi ...
Vile Turds

makes more sense since they come from spirit poo

In terms of sheer power, Ikkaru more than likely stands near the top, past a few of the captains and more than likely all the vice-captains. After all, that's all he has going for him, sheer power.

Of course, sheer power doesn't mean a ton. He has no special attacks and his bankai doesn't enhance his abiltities, so against people like Ichigo(who is much to fast to be hit) and the others with their special skills, he doesn't stand much of a chance unless he can get close and score a hit.

In terms of his enemy, it was a case of pure power vs pure power. His hollow may not be any weaker than the others, it just happens to be the best match Ikkaru could have ended up with in his chance of winning.