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    Getsuga is offline Senior Member Respected Member
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex_XVII
    k check chapter 197 a complete giude to the three types of meons are given by hitsugaya (reading bleach7 translation.

    "menos are seperated by three categories"
    "The first kind is a gilian. These are the weakest type of menos, comparing them to a human hierarchy, they would be considered solders."
    "There are many of them and they all look and act the same."


    "the second class is ajucas, they are smaller and more uncomon than gilian"
    "a gilians battle prowess and intelligence pale in comparison to one of these. The only thing the gilians outweigh them in is sheer population"


    "lastly we have the third class: vastrode."
    "they are the most powerful of any menos and their size resembles a human more than any hollow."
    "their numbers are unbelievably small, and they are know to exist deep within hueco mundo."




    gilian, the type of menos that ichigo managed to cut, as it came from hueco mundo into he real world


    Ajucas, The type that were first changed by aizen and came to earth to be defeated by 'the dads'


    Vastrode, The current arankaru under aizens control were all previously this type, before becoming arankaru of course, and why were they all previously this type? because they all resemble a human more than any other hollow!


    this is all from the words of hitsugaya... seen as hes explained them... i dont think hes wrong!
    That still doesn't give permission to point fingers at Ulquiola and say he's a vastrode while Yami is an ajucar. They're freaking ARANKARU. Damn.

    Nevermind, let me rephrase that.

    That's utter crap. At first glance I didn't even finish reading it. Now that I have, here's what I have to say.

    Yes, that's correct.

    Grand Fisher was NOT an ajucar. It simply isn't viable. He would have utterly raped Ichigo if he was. That just means he is simply a normal hollow, which gives more proof that there can just be NORMAL HOLLOW ARANKARU (omg such a hard concept).

    Good job, they most resemble humans. Would you like a damn cookie?

    People like you frustrate me. There's not a shred of real proof and yet you're claiming, and even arguing, that there is. Show me where it says

    "ULQUIOLA IS A VASTRODE AND YAMI IS AN AJUCAR"

    and I'll openly state it as well. Until KT gives proof, stop saying that they are indeed vastrode/ajucar. Please. Damnit.
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    Very true. It's too soon to say which kind of hollow they belong to...

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    Getsuga stated that yami and ulquiola are arankar and that's that. do you know what arankar means, it's a hollow that takes off its mask to gain the shinigami powers. so if a menos grande, ajankaru or a vastorode they all would become arankar

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    Quote Originally Posted by redrum305
    Getsuga stated that yami and ulquiola are arankar and that's that. do you know what arankar means, it's a hollow that takes off its mask to gain the shinigami powers. so if a menos grande, ajankaru or a vastorode they all would become arankar
    This news simply blows me away.
    Really, read the other posts before you post obvious crap like this.

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    I don't think there has been any great explanations in the manga to make any real claims.

    @ CrazyType

    You say and many others claim that Deeroy was a failure, thus Rukia slaughters him very easily. In this thread you said to reread chapter 203, but it doesn't explain anything. Chapter 203 is primarily Ikakku's fight w/ the Arankaru. Did you mistakenly give the wrong chapter, because I would very much like to see where it says he is a failure and if other "Arankaru" are potential failures. Reading M7 HQ scanslation.

    And what exactly does failure mean. Every Arankaru went through a lot of pain and/or training to achieve their power. How would they be failures? From Aizen's new special invention by Urahara?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kirstpo
    I don't think there has been any great explanations in the manga to make any real claims.

    @ CrazyType

    You say and many others claim that Deeroy was a failure, thus Rukia slaughters him very easily. In this thread you said to reread chapter 203, but it doesn't explain anything. Chapter 203 is primarily Ikakku's fight w/ the Arankaru. Did you mistakenly give the wrong chapter, because I would very much like to see where it says he is a failure and if other "Arankaru" are potential failures. Reading M7 HQ scanslation.

    And what exactly does failure mean. Every Arankaru went through a lot of pain and/or training to achieve their power. How would they be failures? From Aizen's new special invention by Urahara?
    There are several hints for it:

    -the hyogoku transformation wasīt perfect from the start, remember Grand Fisher, and what Isshin and Urahara said.
    -After Ulquila and co landed on earth, the special ninja squad informed Yamamoto, that they are more mature hybrids.
    - Deeroys name, he was called diesiceis (16 and not 16th, like every other arankaru.)
    - Rukia owned him easily while Grimmjaw owned her with ease

    Forgot the chapter, if I remember correctly Grimmjaw said it.

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    I agree, but still the fact Deeroy could have killed Sado easily bothers me.

    But we shouldnīt try to explain everything with logic, there are some elements which have to be in a manga for building up suspense, drama ect.

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    I know Sado lakes a lot of things compared to Rukia, but he said himself, he would have been dead if Ichigo hadnīt intervened.

    It reminded my of the fight between Byakuya and Ichigo after Ichigos bankai release.
    Well it was a surprise attack and Sado was still recovering, but still there was a huge gap between him and Deeroy.

    Arankaru numbering thing:

    I think itīs the order in which they have been transformed, I donīt think its some kind of power ranking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lbosquet
    Quote Originally Posted by Crazytype
    I know Sado lakes a lot of things compared to Rukia, but he said himself, he would have been dead if Ichigo hadnīt intervened.

    It reminded my of the fight between Byakuya and Ichigo after Ichigos bankai release.
    Well it was a surprise attack and Sado was still recovering, but still there was a huge gap between him and Deeroy.

    Arankaru numbering thing:

    I think itīs the order in which they have been transformed, I donīt think its some kind of power ranking.
    ...and the point is..........
    Isnīt it obvious, he wasnīt even able to detect Deeroy nor react to his attack even though he knew there are strong enemies, otherwise he wouldnīt have left his room before recovering completely.

    His recovery state isnīt really a justification for it, heīs far behind, thats a fact and he knows it as well.
    I hope we see an "upgrade" of his power soon.

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    since there are way stronger foes now, what is the author going to do with Chad and Inoue. Inoue can't fight. Chad is so weak now he got his arm cut off. and also when do you guys think ichigo will find out about Isshin?

 

 
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