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    ducttaperofdoom is offline Senior Member Well Known
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    Or maybe he thought he could recruit Ichigo if he could manage to get the Hollow out of him, but I don't think that he knows about it, or else Yami and Ulquoila probably would have known about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ducttaperofdoom
    Or maybe he thought he could recruit Ichigo if he could manage to get the Hollow out of him, but I don't think that he knows about it, or else Yami and Ulquoila probably would have known about it.
    Why would he have to get the hollow out from him before recruiting him? If Ichigo's hollow side took over Ichigo, wouldn't that be enough?

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    The arrancar are hollow who've obtained shinigami abilities with the hougyoku through Aizen. The vizards(?) aren't neccesarily rebels who left SS. From what they said it seems more or less like they were outcasted in SS and either left on their own or were put out. Vizards(?) did not use the hougyoku. They achieved their hybrid forms through natural means.

    It is obvious that they are not with Aizen since Ichigo is labeled as a possible future threat in Aizen eyes. The vizards obviously know Ichigo would be more an asset to them so they are trying to recruit him with the exchange of showing him how to control his hollow side.

    I believe Aizen is trying to become a Vizard through the hougyoku to break the current limit on his spirit level.
    Aizen is gangsta for making everyone wear white.


    Tousen: "So what are we going to wear anyway? how do we tell each other apart from the shinigami?"
    Aizen: "I GOT IT....lets wear exactly what they wear...but make it WHITE!"
    Ichimaru: "OH SH*T, now THATS gangsta!"
    Tousen: "....even I wouldn't say that..."
    Aizen: "Loosen up Tousen...check this out...lets show him Gin!"

    Aizen/Ichimaru: "....BALLIN!!!!!...."

    Tousen: "... 0_0 ..."

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    Quote Originally Posted by MagoKui
    The arrancar are hollow who've obtained shinigami abilities with the hougyoku through Aizen. The vizards(?) aren't neccesarily rebels who left SS. From what they said it seems more or less like they were outcasted in SS and either left on their own or were put out. Vizards(?) did not use the hougyoku. They achieved their hybrid forms through natural means.

    It is obvious that they are not with Aizen since Ichigo is labeled as a possible future threat in Aizen eyes. The vizards obviously know Ichigo would be more an asset to them so they are trying to recruit him with the exchange of showing him how to control his hollow side.

    I believe Aizen is trying to become a Vizard through the hougyoku to break the current limit on his spirit level.
    We donīt know how the vizards obtained their hybrid form, so you shouldnīt say they didnīt use something equal to the hyogoku.

    Maybe Urahara created it without knowing somebody already invented something like this.

    Morever, Aizen donīt want to become a vizard, vizard isnīt a synonym for "hybrid shinigami form", its an organisation of exiled shinigami who obtained hollow abilities, thats a difference.
    It obviously is the case he wants to overcome his natural shinigami limit by obtaining a hybrid form (he even said it), but before doing this, he has to perfectionize the transformation process.

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    You're right, i shouldve said it better.

    But didn't one of the vaizards come to Ichigo and say "you are a vaizard". I guess this can be interepreted though as either 1) you are a vaizard - a hybrid or 2) you are a vaizard - a member of our organization wether you like it or not

    Hmmm. Thats a whole different topic not crucial to the story, nevermind.

    But yeah, i agree that we dont know if urahara unknowingly made something else close to the hougyoku without knowing it but id rather not go down the road of what we dont know. Too many speculations noobs can make here. (ie Hanatarou's ban kai, lmfao)Although i do believe that they did obtain their hybrid forms without any external tools.
    Aizen is gangsta for making everyone wear white.


    Tousen: "So what are we going to wear anyway? how do we tell each other apart from the shinigami?"
    Aizen: "I GOT IT....lets wear exactly what they wear...but make it WHITE!"
    Ichimaru: "OH SH*T, now THATS gangsta!"
    Tousen: "....even I wouldn't say that..."
    Aizen: "Loosen up Tousen...check this out...lets show him Gin!"

    Aizen/Ichimaru: "....BALLIN!!!!!...."

    Tousen: "... 0_0 ..."

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    Quote Originally Posted by erachima
    Quote Originally Posted by ducttaperofdoom
    Or maybe he thought he could recruit Ichigo if he could manage to get the Hollow out of him, but I don't think that he knows about it, or else Yami and Ulquoila probably would have known about it.
    Why would he have to get the hollow out from him before recruiting him? If Ichigo's hollow side took over Ichigo, wouldn't that be enough?
    When I said "get the hollo wout of him" I meant that he'd make it so that the Hollow took over Ichigo. I didn't actually mean he rips the Hollow part and the Human/Shinigami part of Ichigo apart.

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    Ah, I see. I thought you were saying Aizen would have to eliminate the hollow. (Get it out of him as in get rid of it) Which made no sense at all.

 

 
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