Thread: Captain Aizen

Originally Posted by ajp12

Originally Posted by Crazytype

He wont become a vizard, its a name of an organisation of ex-shinigami who obtained a hybrid form, its not the name of the form itself.

The truth is it seems the vizard organisation is one of Aizen´s obstacles.

It's both, actually. Hirako explicitly tells Ichigo that he is a Vizored, though he does not belong to the organization.

Its was more like "youre like me, so you belong to the vizards". Because he isn´t associated to arrancaru, vizards nor even shinigami, though he helps Rukia to repay his debt, we shouldn´t really call him vizard, it would just confuse everyone.

He is a shinigami-hollow hybrid and currently works as a shinigami, thats all.

*just a specultaion*

Aizen's zanpaktou can create an illusion through hypnotism right?
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Aizen has super speed right?

Well...
If he's fast as hell and his sword can create an illusion, I can see how Aizen would be able to stop a Zanpaktou (even Bankai) with his finger. The chances are that it's not even really his finger at all and that it's his Zanpaktou taking the hit.
Think Naruto and think Kage Bushin =P. By the looks of it, Aizen has a similar ability but he can't create more than 1 or can he??? I would think that it would make a kick ass Bankai ability if he could =).

Originally Posted by pyron

*just a specultaion*

Aizen's zanpaktou can create an illusion through hypnotism right?
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Aizen has super speed right?

Well...
If he's fast as hell and his sword can create an illusion, I can see how Aizen would be able to stop a Zanpaktou (even Bankai) with his finger. The chances are that it's not even really his finger at all and that it's his Zanpaktou taking the hit.
Think Naruto and think Kage Bushin =P. By the looks of it, Aizen has a similar ability but he can't create more than 1 or can he??? I would think that it would make a kick ass Bankai ability if he could =).

One major flaw:
Aizen needs to do Shikai in front of someone who he want to hypnotise, and that someone must see himdoing shikai.
Ichigo didnt seen Aizens shikai, so he is imunime to any illusion Aizen creates(at least for now)
He is just REAL fast and REAL strong.

Sorry but who is Yamamoto? I don't remember all the names.... Thanks

Originally Posted by yvliew

Sorry but who is Yamamoto? I don't remember all the names.... Thanks

The old guy with the insanely powerful flame sword

Originally Posted by goneback

sorry that i revived it but i wanted to make a new aizen thread but didn't want to be replied with "go search for one, theres already one made".

I think that he would have become a vaizard already (or at least tried turning tousen or gin into vaizards) since most of the arancars can be called succesful. Since he did want to become all powerful and exceed the limits of the shinigami abilities, I'd assume that he'd want to become as powerful as quickly as possible.

Another point could be how he's controlling the arancars. Well not the 11 and higher but Grimmjow for example. Grimmjow doesn't seem to be the loyal type and you'd think that Aizen (if he's not already uber powerful being normal captain) needed the hougyouku to become stronger and control so many arancars.

You bring up a good point how exactly is Aizen controlling the Arankaru?

I've come up with three possible explainations (though they all have holes)

1. Thet're pledging loyalty so he will change as many hollows as possible into Arankaru. This is the most likely explaination but I really don't think the Hollows are the most loyal bunch, they likely would've tried to kill him and take hygoku for themselves as soon as Arankaru stronger than Aizen and decently intelligent were created.

2. Aizen as hypnotized all the Hollows he turned into Arankaru. This is also very likely but I doubt this would've happened without the Arankaru still trying to attack Aizen. We really don't have enough info to tell if this is true or not.

3. Aizen is stronger than the all the Hollows/Arankaru. Very, very unlikely, Aizen was able to stop Ichigo's Bankai when he was injured near death. We've seen Grimjaw beat back Ichigo's Shikia with only one hand when Ichigo was uninjured, there can't be a huge gap between Grimjaw and Aizen's strengths.

It's also possible that Aizen became part Hollow as you said, we'll find out what really happened later in the story.

as a reply to crazy type, "you know what i mean"

as a reply to tailsnake, "those are very good theories. What I'm guessing is that Aizen is most likely more powerful than 6-10 and the others 1-5 have pledged loyalty to him such as the 2 first arancar that show up on earth."

Originally Posted by tailsnake

1. Thet're pledging loyalty so he will change as many hollows as possible into Arankaru. This is the most likely explaination but I really don't think the Hollows are the most loyal bunch, they likely would've tried to kill him and take hygoku for themselves as soon as Arankaru stronger than Aizen and decently intelligent were created.

I'm pretty sure the only ones who know how to use Hougyouku are Aizen and Uruhara. Since Aizen actually took the time to study all of Uruhara's work.

Also, the Hollows aren't that loyal, but are the arrancars loyal? Yes as it seems since they can command other arrancars as well. So since they now gained plenty of powers thanks to Aizen, they are indebted to their creator.

. Aizen as hypnotized all the Hollows he turned into Arankaru. This is also very likely but I doubt this would've happened without the Arankaru still trying to attack Aizen. We really don't have enough info to tell if this is true or not.

This falls under the category of #3

3. Aizen is stronger than the all the Hollows/Arankaru. Very, very unlikely, Aizen was able to stop Ichigo's Bankai when he was injured near death. We've seen Grimjaw beat back Ichigo's Shikia with only one hand when Ichigo was uninjured, there can't be a huge gap between Grimjaw and Aizen's strengths.

Are you kidding?

Aizen took out 4 captain level shinigamis in succession with only using an unmatched kidou, dark spell, and his shikai. Imagine Bankai. Even if Ichigo had been healthy two fingers would all he needed to kill off Ichigo.

He also has the support of Gin and Tousen somewhere as well.

H.T.G When you say that the arancars are indepted to the creators, I still dont' believe that a thing such as a hollow, even a highly evolved one, has loyalty. I think that its still a matter of who's stronger.

HTG, I disagree with everything you say, but I'm way to sleepy to argure right now, I'll destroy your arguements tommorow.