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    Or we can say it is his lack of imagination showing up. Don't Orihime and Masaki loos really alike? It might be because I just woke up, but, meh.

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    I so freaking called it.
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    Maybe I'm rememberthing things wrong, but are't Isshin and Uryu's dad often at odd with each other? Because I'm think that it might be because of Ichico's mother. I'm thinking he is either her brother(you let my sister die) or former fiance/love interest(you stole the heart that stole mine).
    And, yeah, the similarities between ichigo and that (maybe) Vasto Lordes is probably due to being a fullbringer. Well played Kishi.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tamiel View Post
    Or we can say it is his lack of imagination showing up. Don't Orihime and Masaki loos really alike? It might be because I just woke up, but, meh.

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    Looks and ACTS like Orihime as well, forgot to add.

    Didnt Isshin state to Ichigo that when one uses their final form of Getsuga Tensho they lose their powers for good, as if to hint that he himself did so and lost his powers as well? If so then isn't it more likely that he used his full power to save Masaki* at the cost of his life/powers instead of the Vaste Lorde stealing it or anything like that? I would admit that Mr VL probably did something to taint either Masaki or Isshin, which transfered to Ichigo..but I doubt he did anything to Isshin's powers other than give him a HELL of a fight.

    Another thing. So far this entire flashback its been seeming like Isshin had more and more of a reason to go to Kankurou* town, even though others were reluctant to see him go. Was he dating/f**king Masaki while a Captain or did their relationship develop POST VL attack?

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    Well I haven't been here forever, but things have finally gotten interesting again.

    So looking at everything we know, Ichigo has always had this huge spiritual power but his sisters not. VL has a huge spiritual power and it dominates every other class of thing out there, fullbring requirement needs a mother attacked by a hollow to pass on the ability to her child (where some of that hollow's reiatsu is passed on), Ichigo isn't really a shinigami (if we can trust the translation bit enough to list it) so he might not have had a dormant shinigami side before Rukia transferred her powers to him, and he is a son of a quincy that can absorb spiritual energy. After Ichigo's zanpakuto merges with his fullbring, it looks very similar to the hollow's arm-blades in the chapter. His hollow has told him that he is Zangetsu, which means the hollow might have been influenced by absorbing rukia's power or Isshin's during a future battle when he lost his powers. Ichigo's bankai can't be repaired, since it isn't a real one and lacks one of those things that zero squad guy talks about.

    Hmm... the Isshin fight will put more light on all of this, but if the VL absorbs the full attack, and Isshin basically loses everything that makes him a shinigami, then he is really just a human after being fixed up later. But that would mean rather than Quincy + Shinigmai = Ichigo, it would mean that the final zangetsu absorbed by hollow, implanted in Masaki, and all those energies collected in the womb later on. So Ichigo is a qunicy influenced by that VL's spirit, and he only gets a mask of shinigami powers because of the absorption. Sounds confusing, but it's starting to add up. XD It might also be why Ichigo wasn't told anything about being quincy, because absorbing spiritual energy would strengthen the hollow's energies as well, which means it was dangerous to do so.

    All in all, if he turns out to be more Quincy & hollow hybrid, it will mean the fake bankai will be gone for good, since it was just a path towards recovering the VL's strength (because its energy has always been hollow based, and Ichigo has never been able to use kido). Maybe we'll get to see full power VL strength once Ichigo masters energy absorption and other quincy techniques, as well as other power traits. Who knows. In the end it will be a hybrid form regardless.

    Sorry for thinking outloud, but maybe someone will pull something useful from that mess and turn it into something more tailored. :P

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    Or maybe Aizen tried to infect Isshin? Ah, I don't even know what happened why anymore, I'm really only just enjoying the pretty pictures to be honest. And is that maid Uryuu's mother?

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    No matter what this hollow has to do with Ichigo, if Isshin seriously had to use the final getsuga to beat this dude, we're about to see an epic fight, I hope kubo doesn't screw us on this one

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    Quote Originally Posted by Azrael_13 View Post
    Well I haven't been here forever, but things have finally gotten interesting again.

    So looking at everything we know, Ichigo has always had this huge spiritual power but his sisters not. VL has a huge spiritual power and it dominates every other class of thing out there, fullbring requirement needs a mother attacked by a hollow to pass on the ability to her child (where some of that hollow's reiatsu is passed on), Ichigo isn't really a shinigami (if we can trust the translation bit enough to list it) so he might not have had a dormant shinigami side before Rukia transferred her powers to him, and he is a son of a quincy that can absorb spiritual energy. After Ichigo's zanpakuto merges with his fullbring, it looks very similar to the hollow's arm-blades in the chapter. His hollow has told him that he is Zangetsu, which means the hollow might have been influenced by absorbing rukia's power or Isshin's during a future battle when he lost his powers. Ichigo's bankai can't be repaired, since it isn't a real one and lacks one of those things that zero squad guy talks about.

    Hmm... the Isshin fight will put more light on all of this, but if the VL absorbs the full attack, and Isshin basically loses everything that makes him a shinigami, then he is really just a human after being fixed up later. But that would mean rather than Quincy + Shinigmai = Ichigo, it would mean that the final zangetsu absorbed by hollow, implanted in Masaki, and all those energies collected in the womb later on. So Ichigo is a qunicy influenced by that VL's spirit, and he only gets a mask of shinigami powers because of the absorption. Sounds confusing, but it's starting to add up. XD It might also be why Ichigo wasn't told anything about being quincy, because absorbing spiritual energy would strengthen the hollow's energies as well, which means it was dangerous to do so.

    All in all, if he turns out to be more Quincy & hollow hybrid, it will mean the fake bankai will be gone for good, since it was just a path towards recovering the VL's strength (because its energy has always been hollow based, and Ichigo has never been able to use kido). Maybe we'll get to see full power VL strength once Ichigo masters energy absorption and other quincy techniques, as well as other power traits. Who knows. In the end it will be a hybrid form regardless.

    Sorry for thinking outloud, but maybe someone will pull something useful from that mess and turn it into something more tailored. :P
    I don't completely agree with your logic, but if Ichigo is actually a Quincy hollow hyrbid, it would certainly be a step in the right direction mending the fences between the Quincies and Shingami. Essentially he would be the ambassador for the Quincies and show the Shingami we aren't all bad you don't need to eradicate us.

    In the words of Tank from The Matrix:
    If Morpheous is right about you, I am very interested to see what you can do.

    A hollow with the ability to absorb spiritual energy in the environment around him, he essentially would have no cap on his power level. *Been watching a lot of DBZ recently* Dare I say it his power might be over 9000 with this mix of hollow and Quincy.
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