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    Ichigo losing his shinigami power to become a ninja.

    That's what I see when I read this chapter.

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    I don't think Ichigo losing his shinigami powers is too much of a deal--after all, he still has his hollow powers...
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    ^His Shinigami and Hollow powers are one in the same, that was the whole point of them fusing together.

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    Quote Originally Posted by black flash View Post
    ^His Shinigami and Hollow powers are one in the same, that was the whole point of them fusing together.
    If we really are following the laws of shounen, I don't think the loss is permanent. still that form is SICK though.

    one question though: Is this Ichigo's zampaktou's third release? or is this getsuga tenshou which is an ability of Ichigo's zampaktou. If so, how come there is such a strict restriction such as lost of shinigami powers? If Isshin share this ability with ichigo then i can't wait for the Isshin arc and I wouldn't be surprised by them related to royal family.
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    Of course it's not permanent, as I said before it's just to stall the ridiculous power level increase.

    Now we can go on to the Isshin story.

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    Far as i can tell. Zangetsu seems to start out as a base compression of Ichigo's power from forcing bankai that grew in strength as his reitsu grew. Getsuga likewise remained fairly weak as he ignored zangetsu to focus on his inner hollow. This was the first time since he first got it that he honestly tried mastering his bankai. So he entered the full compression of his bankai where it is so compressed his reitsu can't be sensed and the length of the chain and size of the ban symbol representing how much was supressed to maximize his speed and strength. Finally he enters this state mergeing with zangetsu as zangetsu's cloth wrapping mummified him and unleashes all his reitsu in one swipe. As he said having becomeing the moon. Or the dark side of it. So he unleashes all his power in a single wave like a lunar eclipse that costs all his reitsu leaving him tapped much like rukia was when she lost her power to Ichigo. So he might recover by having a shinigami do that for him again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hellfire86 View Post
    Far as i can tell. Zangetsu seems to start out as a base compression of Ichigo's power from forcing bankai that grew in strength as his reitsu grew. Getsuga likewise remained fairly weak as he ignored zangetsu to focus on his inner hollow. This was the first time since he first got it that he honestly tried mastering his bankai. So he entered the full compression of his bankai where it is so compressed his reitsu can't be sensed and the length of the chain and size of the ban symbol representing how much was supressed to maximize his speed and strength. Finally he enters this state mergeing with zangetsu as zangetsu's cloth wrapping mummified him and unleashes all his reitsu in one swipe. As he said having becomeing the moon. Or the dark side of it. So he unleashes all his power in a single wave like a lunar eclipse that costs all his reitsu leaving him tapped much like rukia was when she lost her power to Ichigo. So he might recover by having a shinigami do that for him again.
    Using the eclipse might actually lead to something, good pointing it out.

    If that's what Tite Kubo used as reference then it just basically means its temporary, which as always makes no sense with what Zangetsu said in this chapter... goign to look more into it.

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    Besides the decent Ninja Alucard picture of Ichigo, I didn't enjoy the chapter's explanation of anything else im sad to say.

    I read it only thinking "blah blah blah more bs Ichigo bleach excuses for everything blah blah blah". For instance, I didn't understand Aizen's reason for spazzing out after he went on about the "1 dimension, 2 dimension 3 DIMENSION!" BS. Even though Ichigo's "new form" (sigh, how redundant and cliche those words are nowadays) looks awesome what is it going to allow ichigo to do and what will we, the readers see? He's going to move at super speed, maybe catch a blade or 2 with his bare hands, display immense super man strength then slash Aizen with a black Getsuga (which would come from his hands or something since he IS the GT) and.... yea. That how Ichigo's transformations go, he gets a new look but in the end theres nothing special about him other than his physical speed and strength and a more powerful slash.

    As many of you have stated. He will lose his Shinigami powers, which we know he will get back somehow, but what about his Hollow powers? Since he tamed his Zanpakutou + Hollow together shouldn't be have been able to use his mask, albeit a new hollow form similar to the 1 he used against Ulquiorra? Ichigo was owning the shit out of Aizen in regular Bankai mode before, then Aizen transformed but Ichigo was STILL able to hold his own against the fully matured hollow Aizen but decided to go full on FGT for reasons, at this point in time, which just seems to be "for the hell of it". If he had the strength in regular Bankai mode to fight and evade Aizen even after he turned into that krazy berzerk mode then why not go hollow, gain MORE strength and toy/kill him at his own discretion rather than using the FGT which takes away his powers? Will Ichigo never use his hollow mask again? This chapter just had me scratching and shaking my head.

    1 more week of Oda's Hiatus. I need some OP in my life to even out this Bleach nonsense.

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    my interpretation(they're usually totally off though) is this

    remember how aizen said he dwells in realm of "reason" or watever before he pwned the thing that allowed ichigo to train?well he just realized that if he was completely in the "reason" realm, ppl shouldnt be able to feel his reiatsu at all.just like how no one can feel ichigos. ichigo is the new aizen, and that just bugs him.as to how ichigo managed this, kubo will probably say it all comes down to having shingami for a father and achieving hollow and shinigami powers at the same time.


    if you watch enough criminal minds you can see a lil bit of aizen in some of the killers..

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    Quote Originally Posted by krazykwasi View Post
    Besides the decent Ninja Alucard picture of Ichigo, I didn't enjoy the chapter's explanation of anything else im sad to say.

    I read it only thinking "blah blah blah more bs Ichigo bleach excuses for everything blah blah blah". For instance, I didn't understand Aizen's reason for spazzing out after he went on about the "1 dimension, 2 dimension 3 DIMENSION!" BS. Even though Ichigo's "new form" (sigh, how redundant and cliche those words are nowadays) looks awesome what is it going to allow ichigo to do and what will we, the readers see? He's going to move at super speed, maybe catch a blade or 2 with his bare hands, display immense super man strength then slash Aizen with a black Getsuga (which would come from his hands or something since he IS the GT) and.... yea. That how Ichigo's transformations go, he gets a new look but in the end theres nothing special about him other than his physical speed and strength and a more powerful slash.

    As many of you have stated. He will lose his Shinigami powers, which we know he will get back somehow, but what about his Hollow powers? Since he tamed his Zanpakutou + Hollow together shouldn't be have been able to use his mask, albeit a new hollow form similar to the 1 he used against Ulquiorra? Ichigo was owning the shit out of Aizen in regular Bankai mode before, then Aizen transformed but Ichigo was STILL able to hold his own against the fully matured hollow Aizen but decided to go full on FGT for reasons, at this point in time, which just seems to be "for the hell of it". If he had the strength in regular Bankai mode to fight and evade Aizen even after he turned into that krazy berzerk mode then why not go hollow, gain MORE strength and toy/kill him at his own discretion rather than using the FGT which takes away his powers? Will Ichigo never use his hollow mask again? This chapter just had me scratching and shaking my head.

    1 more week of Oda's Hiatus. I need some OP in my life to even out this Bleach nonsense.
    My thoughts exactly, Ichigo could have just cut off Aizens head instead of facepalming him.
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