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    krazykwasi is offline Senior Member Community Builder
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    ^ Exactly! Kube is all about the first impression show of strength when the fight begins then as it draws out the once seemingly OPed person ends up on an even playing field. In other words, to say Ichigo right now is stronger than old man is ludacris and people who say that need to get their head checked.

    "He is now declaring his words to the WORLD!"

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    this chapter was way to shonen for my taste, i know this is "that" kind of manga, but at least try to innovate something!

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    I CANNOT BELIEVE YOU GUYS!

    Uhhh HELLLO? Ichigo was training for 3 months in the hyperbolic time chamber and......


    Yeah, ridiculous. I feel like Kubo is trying too hard at this point. He needs some pussy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cueny View Post
    1. I'm just doubt that if the one who attk Aizen when he's unguarded was rangkigu, will she able to touch Aizen on the face. He lets his opponent touch his face from a distance while he's looking at them, I don't think "unguarded" can use as an excuse.
    2 giant problems with your retorts.

    1) Rangiku isn't a captain/Bankai level shinigami, so even if she tried it would do very minimal damage. Gin however, "killed" Aizen when he was unguarded. See the difference here, because I don't think you understand it yet.

    2) If he "lets" his opponents touch his face, then that would be a guard. If I let you kick me, I'm preparing for it.


    Yamamoto doing very well? Yea, he got stab in the stomach while Aizen took no serious damage.
    As someone said before me, re-read that chapter. It'll shock and surprise you.

    I didn't prejudge anything, I'm said it as the latest chapter shown. As I can see, you and other are the one who are talking about the next chapter or so.
    Newsflash, that's pre-judging. You see what's happening now, but not 2-3 chapters ahead. No hard facts were given in this chapter; none whatsoever. So how can you state that Ichigo is stronger than Yamamoto right now? Because Yamamoto "lost" a fight he never fought (well, he would've kileld Aizen)?

    Or do you think it in this way, A > B and B > C, so A > C?

    Charmander is strong against Bulbasaur, and Bulbasaur is strong against Squirtle, so Charmander > Squirtle?

    I can see you argue like a 13-14 year old (not meant as an Ad Hominem), but what we're doing is analyzing and basing a THEORY on what will happen on the next few chapters. You on the other hand see 1 chapter, Ichigo's shounen move, and give your fact "ICHIGO IS STRONGEST!" post, which is of course not true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DivineVTDragon View Post
    ...text...
    i dont know if someone can analize something like that.... in the next chapeter ichigo can just trow a came-hame-haa fot that matter (implying the similitud of bleach and dragon ball on the shonen basics)... this kind of abuse of the "deus ex machina" in the plot is very disgusting, and aged

    [forgiveme if i have spelling errors, eng. is not my natural lenguage]
    Last edited by hikeda'ya; 08-29-2010 at 01:33 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DivineVTDragon View Post
    2 giant problems with your retorts.

    1) Rangiku isn't a captain/Bankai level shinigami, so even if she tried it would do very minimal damage. Gin however, "killed" Aizen when he was unguarded. See the difference here, because I don't think you understand it yet.

    2) If he "lets" his opponents touch his face, then that would be a guard. If I let you kick me, I'm preparing for it.




    As someone said before me, re-read that chapter. It'll shock and surprise you.



    Newsflash, that's pre-judging. You see what's happening now, but not 2-3 chapters ahead. No hard facts were given in this chapter; none whatsoever. So how can you state that Ichigo is stronger than Yamamoto right now? Because Yamamoto "lost" a fight he never fought (well, he would've kileld Aizen)?

    Or do you think it in this way, A > B and B > C, so A > C?

    Charmander is strong against Bulbasaur, and Bulbasaur is strong against Squirtle, so Charmander > Squirtle?

    I can see you argue like a 13-14 year old (not meant as an Ad Hominem), but what we're doing is analyzing and basing a THEORY on what will happen on the next few chapters. You on the other hand see 1 chapter, Ichigo's shounen move, and give your fact "ICHIGO IS STRONGEST!" post, which is of course not true.
    I just see you as a 10 year old boy, like a kid who his favorite toy got mock and just rants around.

    If you told me I use my imaginations in my post, then see yourself and you will see even more.

    Not a single in your post comes from actually appeared in the story.


    "Gin however, "killed" Aizen when he was unguarded." Totally stupid post ever since Aizen said it himself that he knew Gin doing this. Gin just did have fearsome speed and perfect attack that cause Aizen got "kill".
    Last edited by Cueny; 08-29-2010 at 06:40 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yazen View Post
    I CANNOT BELIEVE YOU GUYS!

    Uhhh HELLLO? Ichigo was training for 3 months in the hyperbolic time chamber and......


    Yeah, ridiculous. I feel like Kubo is trying too hard at this point. He needs some pussy.
    Yeah, it's Kubo fault that makes Ichigo too strong sometimes or too weak sometimes.

    He was training 3 days to surpass Byakuya speed, he may surpass Aizen power in 3 months too. With his new appearance and a little show off, I bet this week chapter will be about Ichigo mocking Aizen like he did to Byakuya at the beginning of the fight.

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    Or maybe Aizen will get dirt in his eye so Ichigo throws some in his to be fair.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cueny View Post
    I just see you as a 10 year old boy, like a kid who his favorite toy got mock and just rants around.
    My point exactly. You don't retort with something that adds to your bases but something like "NO YOU!" Childish friend, childish.

    If you told me I use my imaginations in my post, then see yourself and you will see even more.
    I didn't understand this sentence, but it just sounded more and more like "NO YOU!"

    Not a single in your post comes from actually appeared in the story.
    /facepalm. I know you don't like to read posts (or anything, for that matter), but please go back and read them. They're actually quite informational.

    "Yamamoto took a stab intentionally to sense Aizen." Fact.

    "Gin 'killed' Aizen." Fact.

    "Aizen was unguarded." Fact.

    "Ichigo is stronger than Yamamoto because he flung an unguarded Aizen." Not a fact.


    "Gin however, "killed" Aizen when he was unguarded." Totally stupid post ever since Aizen said it himself that he knew Gin doing this. Gin just did have fearsome speed and perfect attack that cause Aizen got "kill".
    Wrong. Aizen was prepared that Gin would BETRAY him someday, not successfully "Kill" him.

    Try harder kiddo.

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    @DivineVT(kiddo)Dragon

    How did you know Aizen was unguarded all the time or not? Your imagination?

    For me, I think if he already prepared that Gin would betray him, I don't think he would going easy and unguarded at all.

    If your best friend point a gun to your head, do you still remain unguarded?

    Try harder kiddo.

 

 
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