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    chuckiechuck is offline Senior Member Well Known
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    oh my. It's kinda sad that by not liking Bleach I realized I'm not a kid; such convoluted story telling! Again, another suprise attack! Bleach is so black and white: you either preach pride, or you have no pride at all! Well, at least "shet" seems to be happening. Let's see how this will conclude.
    Killing time while waiting for the next chapter. OnePiece, that is.

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    I am starting to understand the chapter, Aizen is saying that unless the person has the potential for the power within them the Hyougyoku can not make their wish come true, but at the same time, living things do not tend to wish for that which they cannot achieve.

    Is that correct?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Azrael_13 View Post
    Didn't Aizen have some kind of kido protecting the back of his head from attacks? That was in an earlier chapter, he said it was there to cover his blind spots. So if a head shot was taken, and resulted in nothing, then it wouldn't have been effective. But at least going through his body helps.
    Hmm.. I forgot about that. Either way, how would Urahara have known that?? (unless he was hiding there eavesdropping on the whole battle with the Vizards and such). W/e

    I wonder if Urahara made another portal for the people back in Hueco Mundo to pass back through?? We've still yet to see the conclusion of that Yammi bout with Ken and Bya. Quite frankly all the hype surrounding all the Arrancar are gone so it would be pointless, but I still want to know if/how he died though. And what of Grimmjaw's faith?? Hahaha.

    Quote Originally Posted by animalia555 View Post
    I am starting to understand the chapter, Aizen is saying that unless the person has the potential for the power within them the Hyougyoku can not make their wish come true, but at the same time, living things do not tend to wish for that which they cannot achieve.

    Is that correct?
    Exactly. And thats why Chad and Orihime got what they got cause even though they knew their situation was helpless, as they had no abilities, they still had the potential to be something extraordinary and they still coveted some way to help ichigo face the powerful supernatural beings that keep on knocking at his door, even after any regular human would've just gave up on the idea. Even his other close friends started showing signs of supernatural perception but unlike Chad and Orihime, they still didn't know the full scoop on the supernatural realm so they didn't really have much to go on(wish wise)... but in a sense you could say they kinda got their wish because in the end Urahara, more than likely, let them all in on the situation right when he realized they were snooping around in his basement before Ichigo and company left for Hueco Mundo.


    So since Aizen has it does it mean that he's invincible? According to him the Hyougyoku "choose" him but I hope he covered all his bases cause if its alive then whats keeping it from pulling a Samehada and jumping ship? I wonder if Urahara integrated it with some kind of fail safe response in case it got in the wrong hands?
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    Quote Originally Posted by krazykwasi View Post
    I wonder if Urahara integrated it with some kind of fail safe response in case it got in the wrong hands?
    That would be the dumbest Deus Ex Machina ever for the situation we´re now being in.
    Urahara: "Ah, I forgot. I gotta push the red button in case of the hogyokou getting in the wrong hands!"
    Aizen:"BIGGEST WTF FACE EVAAAAA"

    The he´s killed.

    That would be pretty stupid. But since he didn´t have the chance to meet Aizen before, it would be somewhat plausible to do it now... -.-"

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    Well, I guess that there are some scenarios that could I happen I think that something along: "talking about the past" will occur. Also we'll have to wait two weeks for that.

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    So first off, how the hell did Urahara go about making such a magic orb which makes a person's desire into reality? Did it take a giant transmutation circle and thousands of lives?

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    ^You know those details don't matter. The only thing that we should care about is that it exists it's on Aizen's hands (chest) and how will anyone stop him.

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    bleach sucks. for a manga about fighting, their swords are nothing but proxies. there's no realistic sword fighting, battle strategies or progression of strenght.

    just proxy power level ups of their proxy sword 'power'. one can make ice, one can make fire, one can shoot fireball, proxy fights sucks.

    besides, ur strength is predetermine the moment u r born if u fight with sword power, since the sword is meaningless, just a proxy for ur ice, fire or watever shet power u can come up with.

    take aizen, the moment he was born, by proxy, and his proxy power of hypnosis, the rest are in turn became weaker than him. so lame.

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    I can imagine Urahara saying in the next chapter: "I have a fail safe" and pushing a button
    Aizen smirks and says "What do you think I have been doing all this time?" (Several pages of flashbacks and Aizen & Gin smirking, Ichigo&Isshin dumbfounded, Urahara waiting patiently) "I found it and removed it"
    Urahara: I knew you would do that. There was a another fail safe.
    Aizen: I found that one too.
    U: And another.
    A: That too.
    And they go in circles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo98765 View Post
    bleach sucks. for a manga about fighting, their swords are nothing but proxies. there's no realistic sword fighting, battle strategies or progression of strenght.

    just proxy power level ups of their proxy sword 'power'. one can make ice, one can make fire, one can shoot fireball, proxy fights sucks.

    besides, ur strength is predetermine the moment u r born if u fight with sword power, since the sword is meaningless, just a proxy for ur ice, fire or watever shet power u can come up with.

    take aizen, the moment he was born, by proxy, and his proxy power of hypnosis, the rest are in turn became weaker than him. so lame.
    it wasn't always like this. Which is why the universal thought is that Bleach Soul Society ARC was its peak(probably one of the best arcs in shounen manga history). It had everything in it: Deaths, great fights, surprises(nothing cooler than when Zangetsu first made his appearance), the aura of the captains....and so on..It was just a great arc. When you hit your peeak like that, there's no way to go but down. Thats why you see the writing become worse and worse as the series progress.

    Kubo tried to recreate the magic with the Hueco Mundo arc but it only made it worse, for 1 Inoue is not Rukia. She was always a pitiable character so to make the audience(reader) have pity for her was unrealistic. Rukia on the other hand was always an arrogant character who never showed weaknesses, for her to look so weak during that SS arc was great theater. Not only that, you also had the older brother who was willing to sacrifice his own sister. You had the best friend(who likes her) who was jealous of Ichigo's straightforwardness in saving Rukia. Everything about that arc was gr8.

    I think Filler also swayed people mind off bleach too because coming from the gr8 high of that SS arc in the anime. the older fans were faced with Fillers which kinda turned them off bleach. So they went back to the manga only to try to stay interested in the series. But that didn't turned too well since the series'writing went to sht after also.

    My guess is Kubo waited too long to add some meaningful stories in the manga. And that Hueco Mundo arc....and the whole kidnapping Inoue smelled Rukia part 2 in diff world. Not only that, it doesnt seem the kidnapping amounted to anything. I think this whole arc is what really killed the manga in a lot of people's mind.

 

 
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