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    Quote Originally Posted by Heartlessfang View Post
    ^ but the problem with that is, there will always be a places for hollows around because people are people. a bad plus will become a hollow eventually, and I'm guessing there are too many around for SS to deal with. A hollow escapes, and eventually HM is reborn again.

    In order to prevent more hollows from surfacing, you'd have to have a shinigami on every person everywhere waiting for them to die so they can be purified and sent over to SS. From what we've seen so far, there are probably about a few hundred to about a thousand Shinigami, which would only be enough to deal with hollow outbreaks.

    well, to the point: What if you CAN'T get rid of HM? I'm sure if they could, they would.(even though that would leave most shinigami out of the job.) I'm sure it's more complicated than what were seeing, but kubo-sensei never explained it properly. It'll probably never be adressed. It's just a permanent fact of the Bleach reality.
    Earlier in the series, wasn't there some explanation about the balance of good and evil in respect to hollows, humans, and shinigami?

    I don't think they can destroy HM without making everything unbalanced.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Heartlessfang View Post
    ^ but the problem with that is, there will always be a places for hollows around because people are people. a bad plus will become a hollow eventually, and I'm guessing there are too many around for SS to deal with. A hollow escapes, and eventually HM is reborn again.

    In order to prevent more hollows from surfacing, you'd have to have a shinigami on every person everywhere waiting for them to die so they can be purified and sent over to SS. From what we've seen so far, there are probably about a few hundred to about a thousand Shinigami, which would only be enough to deal with hollow outbreaks.

    well, to the point: What if you CAN'T get rid of HM? I'm sure if they could, they would.(even though that would leave most shinigami out of the job.) I'm sure it's more complicated than what were seeing, but kubo-sensei never explained it properly. It'll probably never be adressed. It's just a permanent fact of the Bleach reality.
    I never suggested getting rid of HM, just the lower level hollows (including gillians) that gather there. If you purify the lower levels, then the higher level menos dry up. then eventually all hollows will be manageable because they will become gillian level again.

    Now, I'm sure that the vast lords wouldn't sit still if such a thing was happening, and so, they would probably wreak havoc on the real world to create an influx of new hollows, invade soul society, or even work together to ambush those coming into HM to purify it. It makes sense that leaving it alone and concentrating on the real world is better... but to quote Ben Parker: "With great power comes great responsibility" so don't just sit on your duff while there is so much you could do.

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    ^ I don't think the vasto lordes would really care if lower hollows were being killed in masses. They are in hiding arent they? and well.... whatever logic their using in regards to that, I really don't kubo will ever explain it.

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    ^Exactly VL shouldn't really care what's happening to Lower hollows, and if VL are more human then it wouldn't surprise me if a lot of them where like Starrk and didn't really give a shit about this war but just want to live there life.

    With the way things are going if Aizen is to ever find the VL or if they find him i've got a feeling that there will be some that will join him and some that will fight against him.

    It's said that the VL are hiding but it wouldn't shock me at all if we found out they've been watching Aizen the whole time.

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    ^ Lets assume that Aizen is looking every corner in HM to find some powerful hollows. The fact that the VL able to hide their presence from Aizen proves that they are probably alot stronger than him, and as u said, probably been watching Aizen movement the whole time wondering what's this noob gonna do. lols

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heartlessfang View Post
    ^ I don't think the vasto lordes would really care if lower hollows were being killed in masses. They are in hiding arent they? and well.... whatever logic their using in regards to that, I really don't kubo will ever explain it.
    Quote Originally Posted by black flash View Post
    ^Exactly VL shouldn't really care what's happening to Lower hollows, and if VL are more human then it wouldn't surprise me if a lot of them where like Starrk and didn't really give a shit about this war but just want to live there life.
    I thought that, like ajuchas, vastolordes had to continue devouring other hollows to retain their form. If that's really the case, then wiping out their food source should do the trick. Either that, or it will stir up the nest and the vastolordes will retaliate against SS.
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    ^ not enough info again. I always though that since Vasto lordes are the pinnacle of hollows that they permanently stay that way, but it's ridiculously hard to become one.

    .....wait.....for adjuchas, they have to keep eating hollows of the same level to retain their level right? If it was that way for vasto lordes, even after eating hundreds of thousands of other adjuchas previously, wouldn't there, um......never be Vasto lordes because there are too few to feed on to begin with?

    Kubo-senseeeeei.......this makes no sense.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heartlessfang View Post
    ^ not enough info again. I always though that since Vasto lordes are the pinnacle of hollows that they permanently stay that way, but it's ridiculously hard to become one.

    .....wait.....for adjuchas, they have to keep eating hollows of the same level to retain their level right? If it was that way for vasto lordes, even after eating hundreds of thousands of other adjuchas previously, wouldn't there, um......never be Vasto lordes because there are too few to feed on to begin with?

    Kubo-senseeeeei.......this makes no sense.....
    I'm pretty sure once a vastolorde becomes a VL, they remain that way...
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