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    Quote Originally Posted by Yazen View Post
    I don't even think this is the last villain in the series. Think about it. There's still division 0 and whatever's beyond that and/or SS to take on.

    I say those two because is Ishida really gonna be like "its ok that SS killed most of my kin and tortured them in the afterlife" (Mayuri) Maybe there's a reason Genryuusai hasn't fought yet.
    There is no reason why Genryuusai hasn't fault yet. Still I'd like to get on with this charade and see the Ichigo V Aizen fight. We've always hear about his excessive amount of reiatsu, i'd like to see it matchup against Deus X Aizen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yazen View Post
    Well that's what I'm saying though. If Isshin broke a rule do you really think it would be a bad rule or just some BS rule that SS came up with. And most of Rukongai is like that. As the districts get further away from 1 they get worse. I also think it doesn't have anything to do with him having kids and a wife.
    Whatever he did to get out of SS I think it happened earlier than the Vizards. I just don't think Ichigo could've gone into SS without anyone thinking of Isshin which makes me believe that whatever Isshin did do, it happened a long time ago.
    They were gonna execute Rukia for giving her powers to a human, so why wouldn't they exile someone for having children with one. Actually if I remember correctly Urahara said "how does it feel to take the form of a shinigami that you abandoned 20 years ago", meaning that it was his own choice to give them up so we can't point the blame to SS.

    If it happened earlier then the Vizards then Isshin would be over 150 yrs old or even more, I dont know how long ago it was but if it was so long ago that not even Shinji knows his reiatsu that means Isshin was around before even Yama-Jii became the 1st Division Captain. It would make more sense if it happen after the Vizards left.

    Quote Originally Posted by liddokun View Post
    From my understanding. The last statement "everything backwards" shows that Aizen probably already cast his illusion but due to Sakanade power, it's reversed, which means an illusion is not an illusion anymore but the real thing. Everybody probably know that they attacking Aizen's illusion but put their bets on Hirako's Shikai power 2 reverse it. That's probably the reason as 2 y Hirako just standing there becoz if he's in the front line, he probably can only reverse his attack 2 trick the enemy but if he's not attacking, he can reverse the enemy attack.
    If that was the case then Aizen would have never had to pull a wtf face or use his reiatsu to bloke Soi Fon attack, from Aizen statment it seems more like he used an illusion at the end and not for the whole of that battle. But It would be much better if he didn't use one at all he needs to take some damage.

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    Five bucks says that next chapter Aizen is completely unharmed to the utter bafflement of everyone involved. Cue a five-page monologue that boils down to "lol u n00bs, Kyoka Suigetsu ftw."

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    The only hit that may have been an illusion is the very last one since all of the precious ones we see Aizen reacting after getting hit by them, including Aizen stopiing Soi Fon of using her shikai, we even see an inner monologue from Aizen telling the reader why Hitsugaya would have normally been owned if not for Shinji's Sakanade.

    And while there's ample chance that the last hit was an illusion, Aizen getting a nice dose of hubris for a change and realizing that he can't win this with brute strength alone would be much more interesting.

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    I said I don't think it had anything to do with his kids because he probably got married and had kids sometime after he was in a gigai.
    Think about it Isshin opened up a clinic and is essentially a doctor which would require years of training in the real world. That's why I think after he was a shinigami he went to the real world, studied, met his wife, settled down and had kids.

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    As I have already said. No need to illusion or not. Aizen will use a kido that Byakuya used in the battle vs. espada#7.

    If he do that he take no damage. Let's see.

    This http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/299/17/

    And this
    http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/299/18/

    Also this
    http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/118/17/

    And his
    http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/118/18/

    Not strange if Aizen can do it too.


    PS.don't know why I am really sure about this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deathbringerpt View Post
    we even see an inner monologue from Aizen telling the reader why Hitsugaya would have normally been owned if not for Shinji's Sakanade.
    I believed his inner monologue is before he notice Shinji's activating his Sakanade. His mocking Hitsu for being a child 2 attack recklessly but then notice "Ouh sh1t this noob captain actually ain't charging like mad cow but got help from backward guy". Hitsu is a genius "yes in this manga" so give some credit 2 him that he knew he will be owned if he's not getting help from the others. His probably the mastermind behind the "ice-shadow" combination for shunsui advantage n ask Hirako's help 2 reverse his next attack.

    To Cueny: Well i don't think that will work becoz the moment Hitsu stab Aizen, every single moves that Aizen use will be reversed by Sakanade.
    Last edited by liddokun; 02-05-2010 at 07:12 AM.

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    Also Cueny-san: those moves are called shihou; basically yoruichi's personal moves. Byakuya knows them because he knew Yoruichi when he was a kid. Chances are that Aizen doesn't know them......but the next chapter awaits....

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    Quote Originally Posted by liddokun View Post
    Hitsu is a genius "yes in this manga" so give some credit 2 him that he knew he will be owned if he's not getting help from the others.
    Hitsugaya is a genius because Shinji gave him a free hit and literally saved his life?

    Quote Originally Posted by liddokun View Post
    His probably the mastermind behind the "ice-shadow" combination for shunsui
    That one may actually be true.

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    Back to Isshin and the Vizard for a sec, if the Vizard left SS 110 years ago and Isshin left his Shinigami powers 20 years ago, then ffs people, I think Isshin left the Soul Society after the Vizard.

    He probably didnt know much of them as they had become something of an urban legend in the Soul Society since their departure, like the numerous tales of of Urahara that made the rounds before Aizen's public coup. And if Urahara didnt do his Guile Hero schtick to Isshin 20 years ago, it can be safe to assume that somewhere in the 90 years the Vizard and Urahara shoten were in the Living World before Isshin arrived that they split up.

 

 
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