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    Quote Originally Posted by kidistight View Post
    If that is the case then it is even worse, why cut contact with someone who tried to help you, plus didn't they just say they were grateful to Urahara.

    I don't see why not, I mean isn't that what the majority of people have done that have achieved it.
    Hiyori has already stated that she doesn't like Shinigami, Shinji has stated that he doesn't want anything to do with Shinigami. Even tho Urahara was exiled to the human world he is still very loyal to SS. Shinji can still be grateful to Urahara for saving his life, but that doesn't mean that they need to be buddy, buddy with one another.

    Urahara even said something along the lines of "At this point, both friend and foes...will take action against them. Vizards...Us...and...Soul Society." don't forget before he said this he was talking about the Vizards and finding out there goals.

    Shinji doesn't think of shinigami as friends he said to Ichigo that he is one of them, and that his friends and SS are not his friends. Then when he arrived at the battle he said that "We're are not on your side. We're against Aizen. And we're on Ichigo's side."

    The only people that we no have used that doll to get Bankai are Urahara & Ichigo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deathbringerpt View Post
    You know, i can pull a convenient justification to any Vizards Bankai as easily as you just did, it doesnīt really hold up as argument either way.

    They were either kids or a plain scientist, the Vizards were already veteran warriors at the time, period.

    Yeah, they don't all need to have a bankai but every non Captain vizard most likely do have one, considering the evidence and situation. Especially Lisa who kept up with Captains.
    Hmmm.....O...K.....Well, what evidence is there? Lisa kept up with a captain, but using that same evidence, you can say Kenpachi attained bankai too.

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    in the realm of posibilities, both sides are correct. But going so far as to be suprised? That only means you have unreasonable expectation. In most matter, to be reasonable is to also expect the opposite!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Paparaz View Post
    in the realm of posibilities, both sides are correct. But going so far as to be suprised? That only means you have unreasonable expectation. In most matter, to be reasonable is to also expect the opposite!
    The Soul King is Aizenīs father and the Soul Key to Heaven is One Piece!

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    @ death. That doesnt help you much. All he means is instead of thinking all vizard must have bankai, its more reasonable to think some of the non-ex-captains might have achieved it, and some did not. We'll see! NOt like we care if you get disappointed or anything.
    Killing time while waiting for the next chapter. OnePiece, that is.

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    I think Mashiro, Hacchi and Hiyori all didn't achieve bankai.
    Mashiro because I don't think much of her to be honest
    Hacchi because he's Kido focused
    Hiyori because I really really underestimate her. Characters like her and Karui are annoying.

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    ^but given that they were gone for 100 years, I'd actually consider them a bit dumb for not attaining bankai, given that it only takes 10 years, and another possible 10 to master it. Seems to me that if they want to get stronger, they should go at it from all possible avenues, not just hollow-wise.

    The chapter wasn't anything great, especially after last week...it's just fodder to show off the Vizards masks and powers. Seriously, why is Hitsugaya so wow-ed...those are Gillian. He just managed to subdue Halibel, who's likely a million times stronger than those Gillian, which he isn't supposed to break a sweat on. So honestly, what's so hard? Bet Yamamoto could have just gone all blazing inferno on them and killed them all at once, putting even the Vizards to shame. Shinji going up to Aizen and slashing him is all about style, as has been said, but it's obvious that either Aizen blocks, or appears hurt only to reveal it's an illusion.

    Aizen would realistically have done something to increase his limits. If by his own initial limit he can still keep in line all those Espada (who, mind you, are really strong hollows who have had their limits expanded) then he's seriously too overpowered. But between Aizen's ability and his apparently insane amount of power...they're still gonna have a hard time. The easiest way to overcome him would be for Tousen to backstab him or for his bankai to have no illusionary abilities.

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    Hi, normally just post in the gantz forum but Ive finally caught up to this chapter of Bleach, so heres my comment;

    first I agree in the post above. Its also obvious that Aizen has great power as his spirit energy is supposed to be double that of an average captain. Of course, spirit energy alone is no good in a battle, but I really dont see the start of the next chapter having Shinji lay the smack down on Aizen when Ichigo and everyone are still dealing with Yammy in Hueco Mundo and theres still possibly Grimmjow lurking, and back in the other side theres still Espada and Gin&Tousen.
    Shinji and Aizen may or may not fight but Shinji will come out the worse anyway (I also see no proof to say he's the strongest Vizard, Hiyori poked him into Ichigo's school for one thing, when as the "unofficial leader" he could have asked anyone else to go instead, or sent Hiyori herself)

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    Its either Shinji or Kensei who are the strongest imho (since they were captains before the relatively newly promoted Love and Rose) but whether its cause he's the strongest or not he, Shinji, is the leader of their group.

    Yea im hoping Aizen doesn't do anything himself but its Gin who stopped the strike or something. Its tooo early for anyone to be making a move for Aizen, cause anyone who dares does that inadvertently signed their death wish and its too early for shinji or die or get owned. Tousen has beef with Kono and Kensei but Gin doesn't have beef with anyone, only Hitsu and i guess matsimuto but she's on the brink of death and Hitsu JUST fought a hard battle against Halibel. Shinji vs Gin seems like a good match up. Its only fair that someone of Shinji's calibur takes on Aizen's lap dog.... THEN get owned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hadou-kou View Post
    Hmmm.....O...K.....Well, what evidence is there? Lisa kept up with a captain, but using that same evidence, you can say Kenpachi attained bankai too.
    Thereīs no evidence, iīm just using logic here, if Lisa who was described as being very strong by Shunsui, one of the most strongest Captains in soul Society and she was ordering Captains around (Rose) and keeping her speed with them, after 110 years, where little kids and teenagers became full fledged Captains with Bankai, why the hell wouldnīt she do the same thing?

    Quote Originally Posted by chuckiechuck View Post
    @ death. That doesnt help you much. All he means is instead of thinking all vizard must have bankai, its more reasonable to think some of the non-ex-captains might have achieved it, and some did not. We'll see! NOt like we care if you get disappointed or anything.
    Yes, iīm very well aware of what he said, i can read English if you didnīt noticed.

    That doesnīt mean i can't refute with my own point, which frankly, has more grounds to become the truth.

    It can go either way but itīs more likely for them to have bankai.

    Yea im hoping Aizen doesn't do anything himself but its Gin who stopped the strike or something.
    Yeah, i donīt really see Gin doing that with all the people there, iīm mostly seeing Tousen blocking the blow, the Aizen elitist, or maybe an Espada, who knows. Iīm seeing Gin just watching the scene with his usual grin.

    Aizen is definitely staying still though, at least i hope so.
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