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    Yeah, back then she was ditzy as hell. Although it was annoying it was also a bit funny. Nowadays she's just annoying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ziazca View Post
    ... Shinigami are a race, you can't classify Urahara as only a "shop owner", that's his occupation. That's like saying, I'm not a human, I'm a shop owner.

    Anyway, http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/188/09/

    We do know that Urahara keeps in contact with Soul Society and at the very least, Soul Society keeps tabs on Urahara. we also know the Visored were supposed to be killed as hollows. So they fled to the human world and hid away from SS. They didn't distance themselves from Urahara because he's a Shinigami but because they are wanted criminals who were to be executed. If Urahara was caught dealing with them, he'd be in the same boat instead of receiving his lighter sentence.
    Technically they didn't flee, according to the anime they were taken while still unconscious in there new hollow state by Urahara. I don't recall anyone calling them criminals though so isn't your link to Isshin calling them criminals mispoken. Yes they were to be destroyed but that isn't enough, in the vet world if a dog develops rabies he isn't a criminal until he does something. Whether the dog has done something it is still customary to have the animal destroyed. If anyone was considered a criminal by SS it would be the ex-shinigami Urahara who was supposed to be banished to earth for a 100 years with his powers stripped of him, per the order of Central Room 46.

    http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/315.12/10/

    Interesting in the manga it says Urahara would be eternally banished to earth, and that the experiments would be dealt with as hollows. How do you figure Urahara would get a lighter sentence when he is the one that kidnapped them and took them to earth, they were only failed experiments in the councils eyes.
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    Terasiel, I don't think anyone is disagreeing with the fact Urahara keeps in contact with them.
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    "accoring to the anime" doesn't really sound like canon to me.
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    If it happened in the Anime and not in the Manga then it doesn't mean shit. Sorry but it's true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kidistight View Post
    Technically they didn't flee, according to the anime they were taken while still unconscious in there new hollow state by Urahara. I don't recall anyone calling them criminals though so isn't your link to Isshin calling them criminals mispoken. Yes they were to be destroyed but that isn't enough, in the vet world if a dog develops rabies he isn't a criminal until he does something. Whether the dog has done something it is still customary to have the animal destroyed. If anyone was considered a criminal by SS it would be the ex-shinigami Urahara who was supposed to be banished to earth for a 100 years with his powers stripped of him, per the order of Central Room 46.

    http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/315.12/10/
    My link was to show that Urahara (and Isshin) did not know where the Visored were and that they did not keep in contact with each other. And if you want to get technical, Soul Society is the law of the spiritual world, they ordered to have Shinji and the others dealt with as hollow. Since the Visored fled from the law by hiding in the human world in their gigais, that made them criminals. I know I worded it strangely but when I put 'wanted criminals' I meant as they are now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Feanor View Post
    "accoring to the anime" doesn't really sound like canon to me.
    Well since we can't see them breathing in the manga you can come to your own conclusions during that specific part.

    Quote Originally Posted by black flash View Post
    If it happened in the Anime and not in the Manga then it doesn't mean shit. Sorry but it's true.
    The only part that "happened in the anime and not in the manga" was what I mentioned about his banishment for a 100 years, it neither helps nor hurts my point, just pointing out an observation.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ziazca View Post
    My link was to show that Urahara (and Isshin) did not know where the Visored were and that they did not keep in contact with each other. And if you want to get technical, Soul Society is the law of the spiritual world, they ordered to have Shinji and the others dealt with as hollow. Since the Visored fled from the law by hiding in the human world in their gigais, that made them criminals. I know I worded it strangely but when I put 'wanted criminals' I meant as they are now.
    So are you now going to assume that they were told they would be killed on site if they entered Soul Society, or did Urahara not tell them all the facts which he has a history of doing. Please remind me were they conscious when Central Room 46 said they were to be dealt with as hollows?
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    Quote Originally Posted by kidistight View Post
    So are you now going to assume that they were told they would be killed on site if they entered Soul Society, or did Urahara not tell them all the facts which he has a history of doing. Please remind me were they conscious when Central Room 46 said they were to be dealt with as hollows?
    Eh, what're you trying to get at?

    You think the Visored being wanted criminals is a fact Urahara would leave out? Or something they would not know or find out for themselves during the 90 or so years they've been hiding in the human world?

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    Are the vaizards in ther gigas? because, you know, they can use their powers and all, and I thought you had to get out of your gigai to use them. Which bring my next question there are like 4 vaizard captains in their own bodies and they do not need the limit to avoid a rupture in space or whatever?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tamiel View Post
    Which bring my next question there are like 4 vaizard captains in their own bodies and they do not need the limit to avoid a rupture in space or whatever?
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    That one I think is actually very easy to answer: The limiter was said to be used as a way of preventing cross-dimensional manifestation from causing a disruption between said dimensions.

    The only time that would have mattered was otherwise suppressed by the gigai and the presumably unconscious states of the four captains as they were being "smuggled."

 

 
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