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    I know what fight you was referring to. Yammato is the oldest and most powerful shinigami apart from Aizen so of course Shinji wouldn't act as if he was as strong as the old man. The Vizard are strong but there is a reason why the 4 senior captains haven't shown there full power, Lisa just said "I'll show you how strong i've gotten", I've got a feeling that Shunsui is gonna step in at some point and say something like you've definitely gotten stronger but you still got a way to go, then he shouts BANKAI!!!. Being a Vizard doesn't mean you are more powerful then a Shinigami it just means that you do not have the limits to your power like one and have some new powers aswell, there growth rate is still the same it isn't any faster, the only person who has a fast growth rate is Ichigo and this is one of the reasons why Aizen was so intrested in him.

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    did that monster hollow just vomit gillans?! ECH!!! that's just nasty!!!!

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    the putting on of the various masks by the gang was cool though
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    First time I've ever seen Yama stunned.

    as said above, there was some serious multi-mask awesomeness.
    (this is prolly the best Ive seen bleach for the past 30+ chapters)

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    Quote Originally Posted by black flash View Post
    Being a Vizard doesn't mean you are more powerful then a Shinigami it just means that you do not have the limits to your power like one and have some new powers aswell, there growth rate is still the same it isn't any faster, the only person who has a fast growth rate is Ichigo and this is one of the reasons why Aizen was so intrested in him.
    I beg to differ there after watching the pendulum episodes, Kensei was giving all the captains more than they could handle when he first started turning. Technically there are no limits for someone's strength as long as they keep working out right, I work out for a 100 years or 1000 years I am still going to get stronger no matter what. I think that in being a vaizard your strength or power goes up exponentially compared to being a shingami, in the case of the old man since we don't know how strong he was in the beginning we can't tell how strong he is now. I think that since we are estimating no matter what our side is, I would agree to the fact that the gap has certainly closed if they haven't grown stronger than the old man. I personally think Shinji is stronger then Shunsui and probably a few other as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kidistight View Post
    I beg to differ there after watching the pendulum episodes, Kensei was giving all the captains more than they could handle when he first started turning. Technically there are no limits for someone's strength as long as they keep working out right, I work out for a 100 years or 1000 years I am still going to get stronger no matter what. I think that in being a vaizard your strength or power goes up exponentially compared to being a shingami, in the case of the old man since we don't know how strong he was in the beginning we can't tell how strong he is now. I think that since we are estimating no matter what our side is, I would agree to the fact that the gap has certainly closed if they haven't grown stronger than the old man. I personally think Shinji is stronger then Shunsui and probably a few other as well.
    Kensei was being taken over by his hollow side he was not in control like he is now, just like Ichigo when being taken over by his hollow he was much stronger but when he goes back to normal and puts on his mask his power is know where near the level it was when his hollow is in control. Wrong there are limits to a shinigami's power, Aizen has already stated this, and that is why he seeks the power of a hollow because he has reached the peek of he's shinigami powers and can't get any stronger. Being a Vizard gives you the power of a hollow more stamina, speed, strength and endurance, but as I said before it doesn't make the rate you get stronger any faster and it takes away the limit of your growth meaning you can keep getting stronger without any limits. Of course Shinji is stronger then many of the others he was a captain and now he has hollow powers.

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    The only way for the Vaizards to be stronger in that way then is if they've been around for a long time after the others reach their upper limit. But just having the hollow powers is good in order to keep your opponents off guard. Almost like fighting two opponents at once.

    However, I'm inclined to think the Vaizards do get some kind of initial power boost from being hybrids, after all, if a gillian can easily be destroyed by a captain, then the gillian arrancar shouldn't have been much stronger. even if they were adjucha at one time, they were still gillians. A ccaptain shouldn't have to release their limit in the real world by fighting just one.

    I'm stopping before I ramble too much.

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    Latest chapter is now online

    Bleach 365

    Nice transition chapter. Hopefully we get to fighting soon. Shinji vs someone powerful I hope/

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    Im sry... but i lol'ed so hard when Shunsuei told Lisa that she's "grown so pretty". DUDE!! Do u even look in a mirror?? Neither you, nor the the vizards, looked like yall aged a day!! lmfao

    So thats where Yama Jii's VC has been all this time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by krazykwasi View Post
    Im sry... but i lol'ed so hard when Shunsuei told Lisa that she's "grown so pretty". DUDE!! Do u even look in a mirror?? Neither you, nor the the vizards, looked like yall aged a day!! lmfao
    Lawl, that's just kubo on crack. xD
    The problem is...it's not even constant so he could use the "they are not people, they don't age" theory. Byakuya, soi fon, shunsui's current vice captian, Nanao, and Hisagi are examples of characters who AGED from the pendulum moment on. While others stayed EXACTLY the same. bs.

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    ^ I wonder how Hitsu would look as an adult .. I cant imagine that. lmao. O yea we've seen Hitsu age a lil too.

    WW amazes me to no end. I liked what Tousen said about him, after all the two of them seem to get along PRETTY well together.

    I'd hate to say it but at least half the vizard squad will get owned unless Aizen introduces some more people to take them on for a one on one battle. There're gonna show off their skill against those Gillian, child's play, but then who would they each take on individually? The top 3 espada are going down.. no if ands or buts about it (I can totally see what Flash said about Shunsui coming to Lisa's aid as a possibility.. kube did him wrong by making it seem like he was out of the game only to be playing dead so he has to make Shunsui redeem himself somehow... im very disappointed by that move Kube). And I really dont think the main top 3, Aizen, Gin and Tousen, 4 if you add WW, would be taken out so straightforward like by one on one fights from the Vizards. History might repeat itself once again. Vizards start gettin owned with Shinji dyingly looking up at Aizen saying "damn you......Aizen.. not like this...again" then WHAM! Urahara to the rescue once again.

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