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    Quote Originally Posted by scriver058 View Post
    I'm sure a direct blast from a cero as strong as Hollow Ichigos would have oblitherated Orihime's shield. However, since it wasn't directly aimed at it, im sure Orihime's shield could have survived that little explosion, had she put it up.

    Allow me to add, I think you all expect far too much from a shounen manga. A SHOUNEN MANGA.
    Personally this is my first shounen manga I have read/followed. I usually stumble across anime like Samurai Champloo, or Scryed, from reading reviews.
    Quote Originally Posted by etufo View Post
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    To answer your question; the last time was when Ichigo trained with the Vizards. Funny how much he's improved using resolve rather than actual scientifically proven training that actually produces realistic results.
    As well as when Chad was training with Renji.
    Quote Originally Posted by maxximus cree View Post
    yammy's alive(resilence of numbah 10)! i hope that ichigo just finishes this... its getting alittle too much like DBZ...
    Getting hell it is already there, big explosion standing around, disappear behind your enemy hit them, let them pant from your hard hit, while you stand around.
    Quote Originally Posted by Feanor View Post
    Don't bash DBZ by comparing it to Bleach.
    At least Dragonball had some kind of story between the fighting. Bleach has been one constant fight ever since.........I can remember. Since they came to Hueco Mundo try counting how many fights there were. Probably over a dozen.
    Right now it doesn't seem like a big margin, but Bleach is better than DBZ any day of the week, as long as you put them on equal ground. Not taking into acount what DBZ did to the anime/manga community in America back in the 90's, just action and story tit for tat. DBZ was basically fight after fight, train, fight, train, fight, but how many episodes revisions and whatever. Right now Bleach is getting up there in episodes but it is still called Bleach not Bleach GT or Bleach Z.
    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo98765 View Post
    when ppl r killed, they died. when ppl r killed in bleach, they get a power up. ichigo oledi died twice. JUST KILL HIM AGAIN ULALA!!! MOAR POWER UP!!!
    LOL, yeah just kill him again, didn't know Ichigo was 1/4 saiyan, since of course they are stronger than full saiyans. LOL. All he needs now is the hyperbolic chamber to go train in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kidistight View Post
    All he needs now is the hyperbolic chamber to go train in.
    Well that device Urahara created, the Tenshintai, to do bout 10+ years of bankai training added with his "secret" training room is pretty close to an hyperbolic time chamber

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    I think I'm the only one on this forum who never watched/read DBZ. Although I feel as though I know it from idle conversations.

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    Many people think this and the funny thing is, she's much more powerful then alot of the others the only problem she has is that she is to fu*king emotional. The stronger Orihime's anger and killing intent, the more powerful Tsubaki will become so i'm hoping that this little fight makes her finally lose it and go crazy.

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    But that'll take ALOT of anger and godly amounts of killing intent for her to be competition with pple at lets say... chad's level. She'll b able to take down a hollow or 2 but it'll b awhile b4 we see her have her own major one on one battle. I just dont think she's meant for direct fighting
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    Quote Originally Posted by 3955elits View Post
    people who think db/dbz/kenshin sucks are the real sucker...
    oda sensei was an assistant for kenshin.
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    orihimie is so f**king annoying.....going emo all the time.....aarrghh.....
    Personally I don't think they sucked, but I HATED the drawn out fights and constant wasting of time in the anime, oh and the same plot over and over again.
    Quote Originally Posted by black flash View Post
    Many people think this and the funny thing is, she's much more powerful then alot of the others the only problem she has is that she is to fu*king emotional. The stronger Orihime's anger and killing intent, the more powerful Tsubaki will become so i'm hoping that this little fight makes her finally lose it and go crazy.
    When you put it like that she really reminds of Jean Gray/Phoenix from Marvel, but like her if she could just realize that there is a time and a place to let your emotions consume you as well as feel sorry for yourself. When you are being threatened or your friends are getting chopped up and killed all around you, is not the time. Use the anger from your feeings and fight back stop being like EVERY other damsel in distress in manga, Oh whoa is me where is my knight in shinning armor. Ichigo. Ichigo come save me yet again from these big bad hollows. Charge here I come Orihime, darn I was killed again.

    Quote Originally Posted by krazykwasi View Post
    But that'll take ALOT of anger and godly amounts of killing intent for her to be competition with pple at lets say... chad's level. She'll b able to take down a hollow or 2 but it'll b awhile b4 we see her have her own major one on one battle. I just dont think she's meant for direct fighting
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    Basically the 4th squad captain is not a fighter by trade but I have the feeling she can hold her own when it comes down to it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kidistight View Post
    Basically the 4th squad captain is not a fighter by trade but I have the feeling she can hold her own when it comes down to it.
    I get what your saying but Unohana is also a Shinigami Captain who has knowledge on Hand-to-hand combat, Kido, Shunpo, Swordsmanship and has centuries of experience. Comparing her to Orihime is Blasphemy. Orihime's offensive powers are whats lacking. If Orihime can get some kinda fighting result out of this arc and decides to train she could stand a chance of at least defending herself to some decent level. It can be done. I mean look at Nami from One Piece and Sakura from naruto. They were once both helpless but they've come a long way from their damsel in distress status.

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    Well I think it's gonna happen sooner or later because that was something that was pointed out about Tsubaki and there is no point having something that is just for attacking if you can't ever use it or if everytime you do it gets fu*ked up.

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    Well what was tsubaki supposed to reject in the first place? I can't remember, but wasn't it something to do with the interior of something else? So shouldn't he just materialize in any opponent and use their own strength against them to rip them apart?

    It seems like he is relying on Orihime's strength and it is capping his true rejection ability. Don't blame the tools, blame the user.

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    ^I like how it was explained really early on in bleach: "When the soul fears for its life it will naturally become stronger to live."

    and then the shinigami limit was put in place so that there was a cap, and then the ceiling was removed by saying there is no power limit for a hybrid, so Ichigo got a guarentee perpetual power booster by needing to do nothing.

    Mean while all the hollows can't have it that easy and have to eat pluses and shinigami, hit a power ceiling, merge together with other hollows and become a really big one that had all its parts lose their individuality, then if one remembers, it starts eating the other big ones, and then so on all the way up the ladder. A clear example of "Let's make the good guys be able to advance and be numberous but lazy, and have the bad guys kill one another off so that there can only be a couple bad ones at the top." It's a natural disadvantage for the hollows. they should just give up.

 

 
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