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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueDemon View Post
    ^And then it´ll come to light that Ichigo´s inner hollow it´s actually a Vasto Lorde xDD
    uliquorra and the top 3 espada are the vastolordes

    still, i'd like to see what happens if ichigo went full monty hollow on #4 there... might be messy...

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    I think its´pretty clear that Ichigo will get help in this fight to beat Ulquiorra, even if he´s now much more focused now and still haven´t resorted to use his Vaizard mask.

    If Orihime plays a singificant part in Ulquiorra´s defeat, that remains to be seen, iwould cerainly like that.

    There´s always Ishida, who´s the only one missing from the original rescue team and of course Shirosaki, who´s just begging to take over Ichigo again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pc1971 View Post
    uliquorra and the top 3 espada are the vastolordes

    still, i'd like to see what happens if ichigo went full monty hollow on #4 there... might be messy...
    Where does it say that they are Vasto Lordes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StealDragon View Post
    @Rumina ... I don't think Kenpachi is what you would count as "slow" He never tries.
    I guess you could say that, but I meant more in terms of... I don't think you'll ever see kenpachi using a flash step to cut anyone in the style of byakuya or ichigo, he's more about making big, direct movements. Though I guess you do have a point, his spirit energy would allow him to move tremendously fast, if he really wanted to.

    I just don't think he's ever trained to attack at any great speed though. I dunno, it just seems like something he wouldn't bother to learn :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by pc1971 View Post
    about time orihime found her spine. now maybe we'll see how powerful tsubaki can be. it's not always about fighting, it's about protecting, and that should be what's she's thinking when she uses tasubaki to slice loli and menoli in two if they try to ambush her.
    What if she uses the concept of protecting and fighting together for a combination attack technique? Tsubaki behind the shield at the middle could provide a fortified offensive. Two types of rejections might be an ownage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by black flash View Post
    Where does it say that they are Vasto Lordes.
    When Hitsugaya is talking about the evolution and stages of Hollows, the Vasto lorde silhouette is exactly the same as Ulquiorra´s.

    If he´s the 4th Espada and a Vasto Lorde then all of the top 3 sure as hell are too.
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    ^that would imply he's a vasto lorde, but it certainly doesn't mean for sure he is. of course, im pretty sure he's a vasto lorde, too...but you can't simply say that he is one until kishi makes it clear.

    and i don't think its relevant. whether or not he turns out to be one, it won't change the circumstances of the battle. the only way it would become significant is if all the espadas weren't vasto lords, because it would mean there are stronger potential arrancars out there waiting. so in the current battle, its irrelevant.

    as for ichigo losing...i really would like to see that. i was annoyed enough when he managed to beat grimmjaw, and it wasn't nearly as epic as when he first beat renji, say, or kenpachi. those battles meant something, but ichigo beating grimmjaw...was like just any other battle to me. so im hoping he loses one for once. let someone save him this time.

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    Vasto lord business is shady, there is no concrete proof that any espada is a vasto lord, at all!
    The sillouete is inconclusive at best
    "Chile is a thin and tall country"

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    *sigh* Ichigo's Hollow isn't a Vasto Lorde. Vasto Lordes are the top-level of a Menos Grande. Menos Grandes are many Hollows that have formed together. So while Ichigo's Hollow might turn out to be insanely powerful, it is still, simply, a single Hollow.

    However, I do believe that Ulquiorra and the 3 other top Espada are Vasto Lordes. Aside of the silhouette-thing, there just seems to be a big power-gap between Ulquiorra and the lower Espada. If Ulquiorra was a Vasto Lorde, it would also explain part of Grimmjow's animosity towards him; Grimmjow undoubtedly wanted to become a Vasto Lorde, but given that his Resurrecion is very animal-like (similar to his Adjuchas-form) and the Vasto Lordes are already in a humanish-form prior to turning into an Arrancar (as explained by Kubo through Hitsugaya), Grimmjow was certainly only an Adjuchas when he became an Arrancar. Judging by the insect-like form, Nnoitra was most likely an Adjuchas aswell, but he didn't seem to give a shit what he was and always believed himself to be superior to everyone else. Grimmjow would hate Ulquiorra more than any other Espada, when such an emotionless servant of Aizen succeeded where he failed.

    But I guess it will become clear what Ulquiorra is (or was) once he releases his zanpakutou.

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    Btw.. Where is those Vizards anyway?? I haven't seen them in the "sealed" karakura town??

    And about the power of Orihime, I remember that one of the Vizards (that fat one) ever mention about something..

 

 
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