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    Cueny is offline Senior Member Regular
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    1.It isn't about next week Soi Fon will use her bankai or not. But something tell me that she had immediately power up with no reason. If she was that fast a fraccion couldn't be able to follow her step in the first place, at least the battle shouldn't be that long.

    2.About the fight between Soi Foi and Barragan, the resalt is clearly that Soi Fon will win no matter what. You guys will see immediately power up technic from Soi Fon again, its value equal with her bankai.

    3.That fire ball came from Hinamori 100%

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    yea its eitherhinamori or urahara, they a re the only two with that kind of ability, and soifon should be pretty godlike if she goes all out, bankai, shunko, and liek the 2nd or 2rd fastest flash steps in soul society.
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    I don't think Soi Fon as fast as No.2 in SS. And if she got that name because of her stupid ninja suit or someone faster than her doesn't live in SS, it doesn't help with her speed except she got an immediately speed improve from KT.


    I will go with the resualt from speed battles in Bleach. (don't count who we never saw his/her speed.)

    1.Yoruichi >>> Clearly win but outed of SS.

    2.Ichigo >>> Faster than Byakuya got avantage by his bankai ability, a human.

    3.Byakuya >>> Almost clear the name of god flash but not close enough.

    4.Soi Fon >>> No comment with her speed in the past, but in chapter 333 she got an immediately speed improve that I doesn't clear what is just happen so it doesn't count.

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    3.Byakuya >>> Almost clear the name of god flash but not close enough.

    4.Soi Fon >>> No comment with her speed in the past, but in chapter 333 she got an immediately speed improve that I doesn't clear what is just happen so it doesn't count.
    You´re kidding right?

    Byakya couldnt even touch Yoruichi, she was belitting him the entire time while carrying Ichigo no less.

    And in her fight against Soi Fon, Soi Fon outran her in almost of the entire fight.

    There is no "immediately speed improve from KT", you´re just not seeing the whole picture. How do you think she couldn't slice a fraccion with he even blinking is beyond me.

    I wonder what her reaction to Aizen will be in the next chapter.

    sHe´ll defect to his side, that´s how she´ll react.

    And it´s going to be awesome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deathbringerpt View Post
    Dude, this is not open to interpretation, it´s a fact stated by Soi Fon herself, she purposely took those hits, which didn´t matter at all in the long run and she told Omeada not to interfere because she didn´t need his help, she can kick an arrancar through a building, you think she couldn´t rip her own clothes to dodge Ggio´s killing blow?
    What are you talking about? She stated "I wanted to see an arrancar's release," not that she would take hits, go read it again at the end of the chapter. When GGio did release, he was winning for a while until she decided to get serious (which is what I stated in opposition to "toying around"). This isn't about her not being able to beat her, but it's just that she had to try somewhat against Ggio (without using Banki/shunko that is).

    http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/332/19/

    To be fair, GGio kicked her through a building too, and kicked her into a building also. And the reason why Soi Fong was able to kick Ggio in the last moment was because GGio was being held down (that's not to say she couldn't, but she herself was somewhat worried) by Omaeda.

    The minute she said she "had enough", Soi Fon killed Ggio in 2 pages like it was nothing.
    That means she decided to get serious, and she wasn't "toying around" like what was previously stated. What's funny is that she killed Ggio while he/she was transforming, making him the first character in Bleach to have been killed while transforming.

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    @Deathbringerpt

    1.I don't say Byakuya is god flash, I said not close enough. Why do you say the same thing I said? For what.

    2.If you read that chapter again and you must read it end, you will see that Yoruichi very fast so can even see Soi Fon's attack like it isn't move. I don't talk about only flash step, I talk about every technics that can improve user's speed.

    Ex.

    Yoruichi = Flash Cry

    Soi Fon = Incomplete Flash Cry (very slow)

    Ichigo = His bankai ability

    Byakuya = Specialist in flash step

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    Soifon didn't really outran Yuroichi. Yuroichi had handicaps that time (she hasn't fought for a long time) and she was also taking it easy on Soifon.

    @Cueny

    It's not that it seemed like it didn't move but she didn't really make it move. She countered Soifon's move by releasing a similar force but in different direction to neutralize Soifon's attack. Byakuya isn't a specialist in flash step, most if not all shinigami captains can do it as good as he can but of course not as good as yuroichi. Incomplete Flash Cry is NOT very slow, it's just that Yuroichi's Flash Cry is superior. Also it's wrong to call Soifon's as incomplete since Yuroichi herself called her own Flashcry incomplete since she hasn't really finished it yet. Oh and it's not a stupid ninja suit, I think it fits her nicely. As for your number 4 point, I couldn't understand what you mean because of a few grammatical errors, maybe if you could polish that a bit, I'd be able to comment on it...

    I don't count Ichigo as a mere "human" he's the son of a Shinigami and a human. He already had his own Shinigami powers from the start which only had to be awakened.

    Yes you didn't say Byakuya is God of Flash but what you said is Not Close Enough, however even that statement is in itself a form of an over statement. He's far off as he couldn't even hope to cope with Yuroichi's speed.
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    What are you talking about? She stated "I wanted to see an arrancar's release," not that she would take hits, go read it again at the end of the chapter.
    One thing implies the other, when Ggio Released she didn´t attacked him once, she was deliberately not giving him a fight and taking hits was an cost of that. She could have ended this fight in a blink of an eye but Kubo is dragged her fight unlike Komamura.

    When GGio did release, he was winning for a while until she decided to get serious (which is what I stated in opposition to "toying around"). This isn't about her not being able to beat her, but it's just that she had to try somewhat against Ggio (without using Banki/shunko that is).
    Ok, maybe the correct terms isn´t toying around (I didn´t really thought through what i read) but Kubo made it clear that in no moment of this fight Soi Fon was in risk of losing either the fight or her life. Kubo is making the captains releasing for fanservice, both of them could easily kill their fraccion opponents without releasing their shikai.

    To be fair, GGio kicked her through a building too, and kicked her into a building also.
    So what? I´m not questioning Ggio´s strenght here, i´m stating that he was never close of actually killing Soi Fon in this fight.

    And the reason why Soi Fong was able to kick Ggio in the last moment was because GGio was being held down (that's not to say she couldn't, but she herself was somewhat worried) by Omaeda.
    That was her making use of the situation, she could have easily get out of the way and countered ggio´s attack, like i said, she was trapped by her fucking clothes.
    Soifon didn't really outran Yuroichi. Yuroichi had handicaps that time (she hasn't fought for a long time) and she was also taking it easy on Soifon.
    The only handicap that Yoruichi had at the time was the lack of her own Soulcutter, Soi Fon still had the advantage of speed most of the fight, unlike Byakuya.

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    ^ not really, Yuroichi prefers to fight with her fist so lacking Soul Cutter doesn't really bug her. What her problem really was her long time rest. She admitted this when she escaped Byakuya as she accepted the fact that her skills have diminished, that she was easily tired just because of fifty flash steps.
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    ^ not really, Yuroichi prefers to fight with her fist so lacking Soul Cutter doesn't really bug her.
    Of course it is, why do you think Soi Fon had the upper hand until Yoruichi used Shunko?

    It doesn´t matter if she´s more used to fighting hand on hand, she´s worse without it, if she had her own Soul cutter, the fight would have ended much quicker.

 

 
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