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    xxDoLLarBiLLxx is offline Senior Member Community Builder
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    Quote Originally Posted by ranteil View Post
    Okay, I can see where DoLLarBiLL is comming from now, and yah, in short he is right. That being said, I still can't recall where any non-hollowized/vizardised person is able to keep up with Ichigo's Banki. Granted this is a side note and not terribly important to any coherant arguement. What is important to the arguement (expecially by bringing in Naruto) is that Ichigo can't controle his reiatsu. If you state that there are inconsistancies in his power, just remember that since that is the one thing that stays the same. Ichigo can direct his power (that is what happens when he focuses) but he can't controle it (turn it off, raise/lower the amount of power used, or form it). That is where the blade comes in. The blade feeds off of this power and gives Ichigo some form of controle. However since this is secondary, it is far from perfect. Also the Mask (as you stated) amplifies his power. If you can't controle your own power, and something gives you more, would your controle be perfect?

    So on to why it was bad to compare to Naruto? We have seen so many inconsistancies in Naruto that it is rediculous expecially with the Sharingan which is what your arguement states as consistant. The Sharingan is broken by the Mangaka because of the general love for the charactor who has it, I state this because we have seen it "broken" (or nullified) by people without it as a power. And yet, you complain about Ichigo being on a flex in power when he can't even controle his own power by himself? To me that one "inconsistant" aspecet is what Tite has keept up with the best.
    I am not compare it to naruto and OP, so i can show you how bad a writer Kubo Tite is. Kubo Tite is the kinda mangaka who will ignore the rules or facts that he has said or set, just so he could create the "wow" factor. And this "wow" factor has come and bit him in the butt. I'm trying to say that he values LOOKS and APPEARANCE way more than Substance. And that's what doomed bleach: there's no more substance to it. On top of not caring for substance, he never stopped to think that the Orihime rescue mission was exactly like the Rukia rescue mission, except that the Rukia rescue mission was way better.
    So now it's basically: "I give up trying to see the substance in bleach, let me just try to enjoy the manga until the end".

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    Quote Originally Posted by benny22 View Post
    I'm just curious to know when people were able to keep up with ichigo's bankai speed other than the grimjow and espadas of higher rank. i'm thinking that i must have missed the scene where it was shown, but i just can't recall it right now. dollarbill, if you don't mind, can you please remind me, thanks.
    There are numerous occasions where a lot of things do not add up at all. My favorite pick being the speed used in fights.

    1.Ichigo vs. Byakuya: Ichigo in bankai moved so fast that Byakuya couldn't keep track of his movements.

    2.Ichigo vs. Grimmjaw, first take: Grimm outspeeded Ichigo, who was using his bankai. And they both got even faster via release/mask later on.

    3.Zomari vs. Byakuya: Zomari was supposed to be the fastest espada. (Even faster than Grimm right?) Yet somehow Byakuya could track his movements and kept on dodging his strikes...

    Bottom line is, Bleach lost any and all logic/consistency concerning fighting after the SS arc. Plain and simple.

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    Not to mention Kubo Tite doesn't even have an ending for Bleach in mind, he's just spinning around in circles. The manga and anime's appeal has just been sporadic for me ever since the SS arc. I wouldn't be the first person to hope Bleach (or at least this story of Bleach) ends with the defeat of Aizen and the Espada.

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    I too want Tite to end his chicken scrap of a manga but before he does he has alot of lose ends to fix. One example is that lil pink haired girl thats Zaraki's VC, forgot her name. We all know thats she's his VC cause she's the only person he prob trusts but what is her fighting like? She has a damn Zanp. and apparently she either has some kind of monster in her or some type of strong reiatsu.

    Another thing that tite should show is Chad's "full" amour. I mean his powers are all about augmented body parts so i assume it can extend to his whole body. No? Kinda like Kazuma from S-cry-ed, for those of you who know what that anime is.

    Theres more but i just cant think of it right now but hopefully u get what im saying. Tite Kube still has more to clarify before hes through. His best work to me thus far has been the SS arc, of course right.. cause that was the first one, and that "turn back the pendulum" arc, because he HAD to explain shit. This fight after fight mentality for this manga is its downfall.

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    Quote Originally Posted by krazykwasi View Post
    I too want Tite to end his chicken scrap of a manga but before he does he has alot of lose ends to fix. One example is that lil pink haired girl thats Zaraki's VC, forgot her name. We all know thats she's his VC cause she's the only person he prob trusts but what is her fighting like? She has a damn Zanp. and apparently she either has some kind of monster in her or some type of strong reiatsu.

    Another thing that tite should show is Chad's "full" amour. I mean his powers are all about augmented body parts so i assume it can extend to his whole body. No? Kinda like Kazuma from S-cry-ed, for those of you who know what that anime is.

    Theres more but i just cant think of it right now but hopefully u get what im saying. Tite Kube still has more to clarify before hes through. His best work to me thus far has been the SS arc, of course right.. cause that was the first one, and that "turn back the pendulum" arc, because he HAD to explain shit. This fight after fight mentality for this manga is its downfall.
    i wanna ask though do we really care? You forget that Kubo Tite is big on flash and not much of susbstance. I think Her "monster" reiatsu was just that, just flash because it look good at the time. She can't possibly stronger than Zaraki and Ichigo is stronger than Zaraki(see where im going with this?) Zaraki beat a guy who Ichigo had problem with while he was in Bankai and had his mask on. Zaraki beat the guy without even going Bankai, i dont even think he released his shikai. http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/308/19/


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    Quote Originally Posted by xxDoLLarBiLLxx View Post
    i wanna ask though do we really care? You forget that Kubo Tite is big on flash and not much of susbstance. I think Her "monster" reiatsu was just that, just flash because it look good at the time. She can't possibly stronger than Zaraki and Ichigo is stronger than Zaraki(see where im going with this?) Zaraki beat a guy who Ichigo had problem with while he was in Bankai and had his mask on. Zaraki beat the guy without even going Bankai, i dont even think he released his shikai.


    Its a FARCE, a FARCE i tell you!!!!!
    HAHA word. Finally after all this time lurking around i get to reply to your post, usually u make the most sense. I get what your saying and i do agree. I wasnt expecting her to be really strong or anything i just wanna SEE. Just to satisfy my curiosity.

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    I find it works best to remove your brain before reading Bleach. I've long since given up worrying about the manga and consistencies. I am one of those people that hopes it ends with Aizen.

    Kubo Tite doesn't need to explain anything. He can kill Chad. It's not as though he really brings anything to the story anyway. He can do something like have Ichigo's dad arrive and sacrifice himself to save Ichi. This takes care of having to explain his story. Oh, and kill Orihime so she can't 'reverse time'. Then just make Ichi a full blown shinigami and end it. They all have a party. There are fluffy bunnies there. Everyone lives happily/dead ever after.

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    Zaraki beat the guy without even going Bankai, i dont even think he released his shikai.
    Zaraki´s sword is on constant shikai like Ichigo.

    Their fight style is exactly almost the same focusing only on reiatsu and less on techniques and kidou.

    And seriously, most of the people here are taking the characters own hype too seriously and twisting them into inconsistencies.

    Zommari said he had the fastest sonido and that he could literally create clones but that doesn´t make him the fastest espada in the group. Hell, Nnoitra kept yelling over and over that he was the strongest Espada to ever lived, do you guys think think that´s another error in Kubo´s writting?

    I could go on and on.

    Pretty much everyone in Bleach has a huge ego, they almost always describe themselves as better than they actually are.

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    Bleach sucks so much right now. heavy wings X a sword that doubles your weight. balls of rose X sucky sucky energy drain. WTF??? you got one that even says i'll fight at your level. WTF????? bleach sucks so much. plus the ichigo fight with grimmjaw, what kubo did with it was crap. the fight makes no sense, wasnt exciting, and wasnt climatic at all. i hate bleach so much right now, it sucks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deathbringerpt View Post
    Zaraki´s sword is on constant shikai like Ichigo.

    Their fight style is exactly almost the same focusing only on reiatsu and less on techniques and kidou.

    And seriously, most of the people here are taking the characters own hype too seriously and twisting them into inconsistencies.

    Zommari said he had the fastest sonido and that he could literally create clones but that doesn´t make him the fastest espada in the group. Hell, Nnoitra kept yelling over and over that he was the strongest Espada to ever lived, do you guys think think that´s another error in Kubo´s writting?

    I could go on and on.

    Pretty much everyone in Bleach has a huge ego, they almost always describe themselves as better than they actually are.
    Let me see, so you are trying to discredit us and the legit claim we levied against bleach?? Ok, lets assume that Zaraki is in constant shikai, He still defeated the guy in his shikai form.
    That guy defeated Ichigo who was in his bankai form, with his mask on, and he(that espada) didn't even release his sword. Yet he realeased it against Kenpachi and lost against him--->Kenpachi in Shikai......

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    Notice i didn't even get to Chad's stupid powers nor Orihime's even dumber powers? It's pointless to ask how they got them or if they are even explainable.
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    what happened to you Bleach, i remember the SS arc days.... You used to be beautiful mannn.....

 

 
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