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    unknown000 is offline Member Frequent Poster
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    He finally released shikai

    so this means he is the 3rd person to own a twin zanpakuto?

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    When Kubo was asked about the recent chapters, he said "Haha disregard that I suck cocks"

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    this is not bashing or anything but this is a justified question:
    How come Kubo had these vice-captains beat these these so easily when Ichigo had so much problem with these same guys? He had to go bankai to beat them, yet these guys only went Shikai. And the thing is, Ichigo is stronger(from we've been told and seen) than all 3 of these vice-captains.
    So i ask, what gives??

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    Quote Originally Posted by unknown000 View Post
    He finally released shikai

    so this means he is the 3rd person to own a twin zanpakuto?
    I wouldn't calle it a twin zanpakuto, because, to qualify on the category, the sword has to be equals, and I don't see swords here, more liek scythes. But lets wait for more explanation on his shikai, as is the first time in the whole manga he has released

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    The arrancar's resurreción would actually be called Pinza Aguda.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xxDoLLarBiLLxx View Post
    How come Kubo had these vice-captains beat these these so easily when Ichigo had so much problem with these same guys? He had to go bankai to beat them, yet these guys only went Shikai. And the thing is, Ichigo is stronger(from we've been told and seen) than all 3 of these vice-captains.
    So i ask, what gives??
    These are fraccion. Probably low strength adjuchas. Comparing Ichigo's fights against espada with these fights is just silly.

    Uryuu freaky, pale and geeky,
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    Quote Originally Posted by xxDoLLarBiLLxx View Post
    this is not bashing or anything but this is a justified question:
    How come Kubo had these vice-captains beat these these so easily when Ichigo had so much problem with these same guys? He had to go bankai to beat them, yet these guys only went Shikai. And the thing is, Ichigo is stronger(from we've been told and seen) than all 3 of these vice-captains.
    So i ask, what gives??


    Ichigo was fighting Espada who are Captain-level fighters while the fraccion seen now are closer to lieutenant level in terms of power. There's a huge power gap between the Espada Ichigo's been fighting and the fraccion we see now.
    Ichigo could have guarded all of the pillars and killed all the fraccion without much effort probably.

    I'm a little concerned about these fights being a little too easy even if these guys are Gotei 13's best fighters. Then again, it's nice to see someone other than Ichigo kick some ass.

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    It's worth noting Yumichika and Kira both got a serious type advantage in their fights.

    Uryuu freaky, pale and geeky,
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sidharthavicious View Post
    Ichigo was fighting Espada who are Captain-level fighters while the fraccion seen now are closer to lieutenant level in terms of power. There's a huge power gap between the Espada Ichigo's been fighting and the fraccion we see now.
    Ichigo could have guarded all of the pillars and killed all the fraccion without much effort probably.

    I'm a little concerned about these fights being a little too easy even if these guys are Gotei 13's best fighters. Then again, it's nice to see someone other than Ichigo kick some ass.
    Look, I'm not talking about Ichigo's fights agains the upper level espadas. I'm talking about his fights against the lower level arrancars when he went to hueco Mundo. heck even his fight against the upper level espadas was kinda troubling, because depending on Ichigo's power level, he shouldn't have struggled with them that much or be beaten that badly. THink about it, Ichigo has a shikai, a bankai and a vizard mask. those vice captains, have shikai and no bankai(at least not shown yet).
    Name me one lower level arrancar that Ichigo has beaten with his shikai??

    I understand i'm complaining but all i'm asking myself is why do these mangakas so badly pace things when it comes to power levels? So all that talk about Ichigo being monster strong was just poetry? or does he feel that he gave Ichigo too much power too soon? If that's the answer, why does he keep on making him look weak even after going bankai with a mask on?

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    Ichigo's never fought an arrancar that wasn't either an espada or a former espada. In his fight vs. Dordonii, he COULD have beaten the guy with his shikai, but chose not to in order to be nice.

    Basically, the question you're asking is the same as saying "how come Ikkaku had trouble beating Edorado without his bankai when Rukia was able to beat D.Roy in one attack?" And the answer is the same in both cases: D.Roy is a hell of a lot weaker than Edorado, and these fraccion are a hell of a lot weaker than the Espada and Tres Cifras.

    Also, in case you haven't noticed it yet, Ichigo not being the strongest guy around is one of his key character themes. It's what makes him different from the normal boring Goku lead.

    Uryuu freaky, pale and geeky,
    how do your powers grow?
    "With gloves and scars and silver stars
    and swords that I shoot from a bow,
    yes, swords that I shoot from a bow."

 

 
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