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    Sidharthavicious is offline Senior Member Long Time Member
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    Urahara and the Vaizard are exiles while for more than a hundred years Aizen had been a faithful lieutentant and then captain from the looks of things. Any accusations would only lead the Gotei 13 to them and would only sound crazy coming from someone who was banished.


    If Kubo pulls off a good enough explanation I can buy SS believing Aizen over the others.
    We've seen that there's a huge gap in the power of a Lieutentant and a Captain so taken at face value Urahara's story about Aizen escaping from six or so Captains might seem crazy to the others.

    If the others are too arrogant to believe a Lieutentant and two of his flunkies faced all those people and got away Aizen doesn't need his absolute hypnosis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by irecinius View Post
    Urahara banishment smells likes a coverup to me more then anything.
    I actually forgot about how Urahara set up Mayuri as his successor 'in case' he is indisposed or dies. Urahara must have made that as a failsafe or read through Aizen. My guess would be the former.
    Quote Originally Posted by whtfog View Post
    i bet aizen pulled a switch-a-roo and made urahara look like the one that turned them into vaizards
    He already suggested it in this chapter with his talk before leaving.
    Quote Originally Posted by Sidharthavicious View Post
    Urahara and the Vaizard are exiles while for more than a hundred years Aizen had been a faithful lieutentant and then captain from the looks of things. Any accusations would only lead the Gotei 13 to them and would only sound crazy coming from someone who was banished.
    Everyone at the incident were senior to Aizen and were of equal or superior rank. The only reason their voices weren't regarded was because Aizen painted a scenario or placed a set-up (maybe with the help of his illusion) that made them look more incriminating before they had a chance to make their argument. HOWEVER, since Aizen's abandonment from SS, SS would have been sure to re-establish ties with Urahara, who would have revealed his knowledge and suspicion of Aizen's plans, which lead to the set-up of shinigami captains facing Aizen & friends on Earth at this very moment.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sidharthavicious View Post
    If Kubo pulls off a good enough explanation I can buy SS believing Aizen over the others.
    Well, buying it is expected. We're already in the future.
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    Quote Originally Posted by duhfreak View Post
    ^that seems like the most probable outcome...

    wow they avoided the fight. i think im starting to dislike bleach again...

    It wouldn't make much sense to not avoid the fight. Hirako and the others were kind of turning into hollows on the spot, and that seemed to be the more urgent issue at hand.

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    This chapter leaves me wondering about how Yoruichi gets connected to this incident, as well as Tousen vs. Kenpachi in the first arc though. Did a good job of reminding how much of a badass Aizen is though.

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    for someone who doesn't want to see blood spilled, Tousen was pretty fast in trying to kill Urahara and Tessai. Aizen even had to be the one to call him off from attacking.

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    eh,I was just thinking this,the hougyoku made by urahara works well with hollowfication right?we all know that the vaizard looks like human completely with no trace of hollow at all.
    then,what'd make urahara and and tessai banished from SS if all of the captains that has gained hollow power is turning back into their normal form?
    except that they got amnesia when they went through hollowfication which is very unlikely.
    why won't they speak about aizen?


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    Does anyone think that the hollowfication we've seen so far might be one of Aizen's illusions and everything up to now was just to get Urahara to use the hogyoku and create the hollow hybrids for him?

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    This manga is screwed up. I am wondering why I keep reading it...Maybe I should go and search for better mangas...

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    @sidhart:No,judging from the last 3 pages,aizen didn't know about hougyoku at all,he even said that:"this one is no good at all"(it's from -100/101 I think,or maybe even before).All he knows probably just that by turning into hollow and broke the mask you'll gain incredible power(hollowfication)


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    Quote Originally Posted by 3955elits View Post
    @sidhart:No,judging from the last 3 pages,aizen didn't know about hougyoku at all,he even said that:"this one is no good at all"(it's from -100/101 I think,or maybe even before).All he knows probably just that by turning into hollow and broke the mask you'll gain incredible power(hollowfication)
    I agree that Aizen didn't know about the hougyoku. He needs to transcend the natural limits the shinigami body inflicts, and is therefore trying to merge hollow power and shinigami power into one body (hollow power is negative and shinigami power is positive). This project keeps failing because of the "boundary" that Urahara mentions. I guess you need to see it as anti-matter and matter colliding -> huge fricking explosion.

    Urahara creates the hougyoku as a way to save infected souls from being extinguished by removing the barrier and letting shinigami and hollow power "merge", instead of the usual dissolving of souls as seen earlier. This merging just happens to be exactly what Aizen is looking for...

    Hollowfication is therefore _not_ about breaking the mask, but is shinigami gaining hollow powers (mask breaking is just part of the vaizard-ification).

    You're thinking about Arrancars (mature) that has been able to gain shinigami powers by breaking away parts of their masks?

 

 
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