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    kassandora8 is offline Member Frequent Poster
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    SpartaneXe is offline Senior Member Frequent Poster
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    Great chapter. Seems all the to-be Vizards went out on this mission...

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpartaneXe View Post
    Great chapter. Seems all the to-be Vizards went out on this mission...
    No, all the CURRENT Vaizards are sent on this mission, that transformed one of them on something resembling a Hollow Shinigami cross.

    But the main question now is: Is really the Hogyoku responsible for transforming Shinigamis into Hollows?
    Or the "arrancar" process is just a byproduct of removing the barrier?

    Looking back, Aizen said he was experimenting with and that "Hollow" that killed Kaien, to me he might have been trying to "recreate" whatever did the "Vaizard-fication" to the people there. That "Black-sword" might have something to do with.

    But now we know where the hell Tensai came from.. some very high up place..

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    Quote Originally Posted by irecinius View Post
    No, all the CURRENT Vaizards are sent on this mission, that transformed one of them on something resembling a Hollow Shinigami cross.

    But the main question now is: Is really the Hogyoku responsible for transforming Shinigamis into Hollows?
    Or the "arrancar" process is just a byproduct of removing the barrier?

    Looking back, Aizen said he was experimenting with and that "Hollow" that killed Kaien, to me he might have been trying to "recreate" whatever did the "Vaizard-fication" to the people there. That "Black-sword" might have something to do with.

    But now we know where the hell Tensai came from.. some very high up place..
    You're assuming a couple of things.

    There's no indication the Hogyoku has even been created yet (it could be, of course), there's no indication that this Urahara and company will be leaving at the same time as the vizards (again, they could be, but it hasn't exactly been confirmed).

    And Kaien definitely wasn't involved, that's about 50 years ago, while this right now is 100.

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    I'm talking about present: and what it was shown from the story so far.

    Hogyouku is created > Urahara hides it > aizen finds it > aizen tell us it to break free from the shinigami cap > Aizen uses to create arrancars.

    Now, in the past we see a Hollow/Shinigami hybrid
    So its maybe a earlier form of the Hogyoku or earlier experiments, or a "experiment" gone bad or just someone's freakish bankai, that has the "power to hollowish shinigamis"

    Not saying that Kaien was involved in any form at this time, BUT Aizen might be, Azien said he was the one responsible for the hollow that took over Kaien body, so if you take its a bad experiment by -100years that its very probable that was destroyed by then, and Aizen at -50years managed to create that hollow with the data he collected at that time, but wasn't really sucessfull..

    Puttin on a timeline (of sorts)
    Someone/Something - Hollow Stuff
    That is either destroyed or captured or sealed
    *years later*
    Aizen try to recreate that something/someone
    Hollow that killed* Kaien is created

    I just said that because its similar in aspect, that hollow fused himself into Kaien's body, similar to what happened to Ichigo.

    The only thing I am assuming is: Aizen motives to create that hollow that killed* Kaien was to try to recreate the "Vaizardification" process. (That I think its fairly obivious)

    But all wraps with the question, if the Hogyoku isn't necessary to create a vaizard, what its purpose?

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    the key!! the key!! everything has to do with the key!! vizards are just foot soldiers!! like ants!! the key!! u stab the king with the key!! after that, if the queen is lonely, there's always the key. ummm...yeah....

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    I just think every single one of them will be transformed into hollow so Urahara Kisuke will create the Hogyouku in the attempt to remove part of their hollow form. And the result is vaizard.

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    intresting theories being thrown around here
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    THEORY TIME!

    I'm calling that Urahara invented the Hogyoku to cure those who later became the Vaizards. Hence why they are transformed and why Aizen acted like he knew of the Hogyoku from reading about it, not seeing it in person.

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    nice theory....
    i&#180;m really being curious about who the people are who are doing the experiments ...
    and how&#180;s Kensei going to get "Vaizard`d" lol
    can&#180;t wait for the next chap ^^

 

 
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