Page 5 of 6 FirstFirst ... 3456 LastLast
Results 41 to 50 of 58
  1. #41
    Liarfather is offline Senior Member Frequent Poster
    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Location
    Poland.. I mean Kaczystan
    Posts
    148

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by StealDragon View Post
    Kenpachi is a title. Stop mixing it and the person up.
    Exactly!

    And back to my theory of Isshin being Kenpachi during time shown in current arc.

    There are few facts we are sure:

    1) Isshin is Shinigami. This one is 100%, we've all seen him.
    2) Isshin knows Uruhara. While this one is also sure we can't assume too much based on this fact as we do not know when they've met for the first time, still narration laws suggest they were already aquainted before leaving SS.
    3) Zaraki killed former 11th Divsion captain thus taking his place and achieving title of Kenpachi.
    4) At Uruhara captainship ceremony there was no Kenpachi from his time ergo it could be anyone.
    5) We do not know exact time when Zaraki became captain but we can exclude him being the Kenpachi in question, as Tousen was already around when Zaraki killed 11th Captain.

    Above are the solid facts. And now to subtle hints/persumptions.
    1) Isshin was a captain. Never stated, but many people are having high hopes due to armcloth and his talk with Grand Fisher. I give it about 70 to 80%. Why? Universal rules of narration.
    2) Isshin left SS around same time as Uruhara. While first part is virtually 100% sure the other is not. Still beat-up shonens are almost entirely cliche based and this fits the general rule.
    3) Captains rotation is about same as in big lawyers corporations in NY.

    While I have no proof to back up my theory in ways of it being sure I think that points above are enough to prove it possible! Considering it would be one of those shocking events (you know, like revealing that Itachi was good etc.) it is more than probable that Isshin was Kenpachi in time, in which current arc is taking place. If I am right we'll know soon enough. Well, same is if I am not right but hell with it.
    Poles say: We are sorry that our president is an idiot. We didn't vote on him.

  2. #42
    Deathbringerpt is offline Senior Member Always Around
    Join Date
    Jun 2006
    Posts
    1,175

    Default

    Aside from the 12th Captain, who we were told her name, Kubo conveniently left out the 11th Captain out of Urahara´s promotion ceremony. Considering Urahara knows Isshin since he met him the moment he gained his powers and killed Grand Fisher there´s also a chance that he might have lost his powers due to some experiment of Urahara´s.

    Whatever, either way i also think that Isshin is the 11th Captain.

  3. #43
    Cueny is offline Senior Member Regular
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Posts
    168

    Default

    U GUYs knew that Ichico's dad lose his power. May B it happen when he fight with Kenpachi(with Yachiru).

    And I think Kenpachi(with Yachiru) is the 11th captian in flash back already. He just beat Ichico's dad(former Kenpachi) and taking his position.

    Kisuke help him recovery his power for sure. Then Ichico's dad will GOT his HOLLOW POWER too. May B he's the first experiment of Kisuke HOLLOW Project.

    May B I am wrong. Let's SEE.

  4. #44
    StealDragon's Avatar
    StealDragon is offline Super Moderator Community Builder
    Join Date
    Apr 2005
    Location
    NCC-1701
    Posts
    13,425

    Default

    I'd rather see someone OTHER than Isshin be the 11th division captain. Make him a member of the Zero Division or something.


    I'd like to die with the songs I love stuck in my head. I hope to make the most of these hollow bones we become.
    I raise a toast to the the souls that sang all along. I've been gathering friends to just to make some sounds,
    before the ship goes down, I've been making amends by making the rounds before the whole world ends


    [Chit Chat Specific Forum Rules] // Last Update - Friday March 13, 2009

  5. #45
    erachima is offline Senior Member Always Around
    Join Date
    Nov 2005
    Location
    At my computer.
    Posts
    2,020

    Default

    I believe Isshin is likely the old 11th for a couple reasons in addition to those mentioned above:

    First, in -108 (or possibly -107, I'd have to check), when they described Zaraki beating the old captain, they didn't say he was killed, just defeated. While certainly not definitive, it smacks of retcon enough to be suggestive.

    Second, Kubo seems to be building Ichigo towards taking the Kenpachi role at the end of the series, and if that is the case then having his dad be the previous captain would fit nicely.

    Uryuu freaky, pale and geeky,
    how do your powers grow?
    "With gloves and scars and silver stars
    and swords that I shoot from a bow,
    yes, swords that I shoot from a bow."

  6. #46
    irecinius is offline Senior Member Community Builder
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Location
    FL
    Posts
    2,785

    Default

    but we can exclude him being the Kenpachi in question, as Tousen was already around when Zaraki killed 11th Captain.
    Tolsen could be just a minor bug, not even being seated yet, when Zaraki killed the former captain..
    we also know Aizen just picked Tousen, not because his sense of justice or what not.. because his blind and immune to his Shikai!

    He just manipulated his emotions.

    I also don't think its the current kenpachi the same as in the flashback, but there is not enough information to prove or disprove it

    Quote Originally Posted by Stealdragon
    I'd rather see someone OTHER than Isshin be the 11th division captain. Make him a member of the Zero Division or something.
    You got my full support here!!!

  7. #47
    SiegKroxic is offline Senior Member Frequent Poster
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Posts
    101

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by erachima View Post
    they didn't say he was killed, just defeated.
    Quote Originally Posted by irecinius View Post
    when Zaraki killed the former captain..
    So which one is it?

  8. #48
    diokhan is offline Senior Member Well Known
    Join Date
    Apr 2005
    Location
    somewhere
    Posts
    284

    Default

    IF isshin was the 11th captain, it'd be kinda interestin' considering zaraki and ichigo's relationship.
    Do I have to?

  9. #49
    Deathbringerpt is offline Senior Member Always Around
    Join Date
    Jun 2006
    Posts
    1,175

    Default

    Tolsen could be just a minor bug, not even being seated yet, when Zaraki killed the former captain..
    Yeah but Tousen, unlike Gin, joined the Gotei 13 rather late in his life since his girlfriend only died when he was in his teens. It´s probable that he´s not even in Soul Society in this flashback.

  10. #50
    duhfreak is offline Senior Member Regular
    Join Date
    Aug 2007
    Posts
    179

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Cueny View Post
    U GUYs knew that Ichico's dad lose his power. May B it happen when he fight with Kenpachi(with Yachiru).

    And I think Kenpachi(with Yachiru) is the 11th captian in flash back already. He just beat Ichico's dad(former Kenpachi) and taking his position.

    Kisuke help him recovery his power for sure. Then Ichico's dad will GOT his HOLLOW POWER too. May B he's the first experiment of Kisuke HOLLOW Project.

    May B I am wrong. Let's SEE.
    wow. stubborn. did u even read the other posts?


    Quote Originally Posted by SiegKroxic View Post
    So which one is it?
    i think i recall reading that Zaraki killed the previous captain to get his spot. it was during his fight wit Tousen. Tousen said something about after Zaraki killed the previous captain, he felt uneasy, and was too bloodthirsty to be a captain. not too sure tho.


    im thinking the idea that ichigo's dad was the 11th captain might be close. he has "captain level" powers, and is acquainted with Urahara. around this time, i cant find any other position he would be.

 

 
Page 5 of 6 FirstFirst ... 3456 LastLast

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
vBulletin Skin by: ForumThemes.com
Powered by vBulletin® Version 4.2.0
Copyright © 2014 vBulletin Solutions, Inc. All rights reserved.
SEO by vBSEO 3.6.0 PL2

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 160 161 162